THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 4, 2017
Hype to the right of us, hysteria to the left, and idiocy all around
Special commentary by Paul Plante
Yes, people, hype and hysteria, and to be frank, more political bull**** than I ever recall being subjected to in this country after a presidential election was over in the last seventy years, as in:
“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin.”
That, of course, is Democrat and two-time loser Hillary Rodham Clinton being quoted in a puff piece entitled “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Surreal Post-Election Life” by Rebecca Traister in the Daily Intelligencer on 26 May 2017.
That puff piece starts as follows:
It’s the day after Donald Trump has fired FBI director James Comey, the man who many — including Clinton — believe is responsible for the fact that she is spending this Wednesday in May working at a dining-room table in Chappaqua and not in the Oval Office.
“I am less surprised than I am worried,” she says of the Comey firing.
“Not that he shouldn’t have been disciplined.”
“And certainly the Trump campaign relished everything that was done to me in July and then particularly in October.”
end quote
“Everything that was done to me?”
Like what, exactly, Hillary?
What was “done” to you that hasn’t been done to other presidential candidates in this nation going right on back to poor old toothless dog John Adams in this nation’s first contested presidential election?
And that answer is nothing.
But that is just a triviality – Hillary will be whining about losing this election for the rest of her life, blame-casting everywhere but where blame should be cast, which is with herself.
So my purpose in writing doesn’t have to do with Hillary Clinton’s ceaseless whining and blame-casting; to the contrary, it has to do with all this hype and hysteria we are being fed on a daily basis by the media about how our supposed “democracy” itself is threatened, which point comes across once more in that Daily Intelligencer puff piece as follows:
But “having said that, I (Clinton) think what’s going on now is an effort to derail and bury the Russia inquiry, and I think that’s terrible for our country.”
end quote
Terrible for our country?
Wow.
Sounds pretty grim to me, as if the end of the world is quite near, or maybe even gone past, but we just haven’t realized it yet, being slow to process information more than a few words long as we are in this country today.
Getting back to the puff piece:
History, says Clinton, “will judge whoever’s in Congress now as to how they respond to what was an attack on our country.”
end quote
A attack on our country?
HUH?
When and where did that happen?
Does anyone know?
Did anyone hear anything about it?
I didn’t think so, because there was no attack on “our country.”
But here is how our special and precious Hillary qualifies that in the puff piece:
“It wasn’t the kind of horrible, physical attack we saw on 9/11 or Pearl Harbor, but it was an attack by an aggressive adversary who had been probing for many years to figure out how to undermine our democracy, influence our politics, even our elections.”
end quote
Hillary, in a word, that is bull****.
If the Russians really wanted to see “our democracy” undermined, all they would have to do is to stand back and watch, because democracies throughout history are and have always been inherently unstable, which is why wise men back at the beginning of this nation’s history totally rejected democracy as a form of government in this nation.
In the Daily Intelligencer puff piece on 26 May 2017, we were informed that Hillary’s hope, in the wake of Comey’s dismissal, is that “this abrupt and distressing action will raise enough questions in the minds of Republicans for them to conclude that it is worthy of careful attention, because left unchecked … this will not just bite Democrats, or me; this will undermine our electoral system.”
What is undermining our electoral system in this country is not the Russians, it is the abject ignorance of people in this country who cannot read more than two or three words in a row without getting intellectually overwhelmed, but who vote, nonetheless, because in this country, you can be totally illiterate and totally ignorant of what is going on around you in the world, and yet, your vote is worth just as much as the vote of the wisest among us, assuming there still are any of that caliber left around in this country today.
As to democracy and Marxism, school boy/girl history as used to be taught in this country back when people had to know how to read to even get into high school, let alone graduate, and modern-day Wikipedia tell us that the role of democracy in Marxist thinking may refer to the role of democratic processes in the transition from capitalism to communism or capitalism to Marxist socialism.
Long ago, before Hillary Clinton was even born, and this as well is school boy/girl history in this country, or used to be, Leninists in Russia believed democracy under capitalism was an unrealistic utopia because in their belief system, they believed that in a capitalist state, all “independent” media and most political parties are controlled by capitalists and one either needs large financial resources or to be supported by the bourgeoisie to win an election.
That reference to large financial resources happens to be Hillary Clinton in spades.
In “The State and Revolution” by Lenin in Chapter 5, he states:
Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich – that is the democracy of capitalist society.
end quotes
When she says, “our democracy,” that democracy for the rich is exactly what Hillary Clinton is talking about.
And for the record, those words were penned by Lenin back circa 1917, which is a hundred (100) years ago now, so the Marxists (i.e., the Russians) have been studying democracy for a long time now, notwithstanding that Hillary Clinton and the majority of the American people and media seem to be totally unaware of that.
The democracy that Marxists aim to achieve is a workers’ democracy also known as the dictatorship of the proletariat which would consist of political power being held by the working class (the majority demographic of society) and state power wielded in their interests, and Marxists also hold that a workers’ democracy (the dictatorship of the proletariat) is only a temporary and transitional form necessary prior to the establishment of a communist society.
So, how is this supposed “democracy” Hillary Clinton says we have in this country different than the Marxist form of democracy?
Don’t look for an answer to that question in the main stream media, or from Hillary Clinton, because none of them are going to answer that question.
Where is supposed democracy taking us to in this nation?
Why will it take us in a different direction than Marxist democracy?
Again, no answers forthcoming, just a flood of even more bull****.
It is interesting that just about every day, we keep hearing that the Russians meddled in our elections, or that they interfered in our elections, both of which charges themselves are total bull****.
If they meddled in our elections, how did they do it?
If they interfered in our elections, how did they do it?
If they meddled or interfered in our elections, then why and how did Hillary Clinton amass more popular votes than Trump did?
If the Russians wanted Trump to win, and perhaps they did, and they had this power over the American people, which is entirely possible and feasible if the American people are now ignorant enough to become Russian or Marxist pawns, and power over the electoral process to such a degree that they could successfully meddle in it, then why didn’t they ensure Trump would win the majority of the popular vote?
And that answer is because they did not have such a degree of control, or any control at all, for that matter.
So why then, are we being fed this crap about the Russians meddling and interfering in our elections?
Is there anyone in here intelligent enough to riddle us that, so we can finally understand what all this hoopla in the media concerning all this alleged Russian meddling and interfering in our elections is all about?
The candid world would very much like to know.
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THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
Re: THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 4, 2017 AT 1:58 PM
Robbin Smith says:
Good morning Wayne,
I hope all is well in the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky.
I enjoy your observations and read them often however this sounds like textbook Trump apologist talking points.
Your thesis that Russia didn’t “meddle” in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed.
Notwithstanding the aforementioned fact that the intelligence community has stated that there is ample evidence to that fact, there is also ample reason for that “meddling” you so patently dismiss.
The NATO issue alone is more than enough reason for Russian involvement.
Not to mention Syria and Ukraine and other hot-bed Russian issues that a President Clinton would be much tougher on then President Trump has shown he is willing to be.
Also not to mention a number of other economic, environmental and diplomatic issues, and not to bury the lead, but the 800 pound gorilla in the room-FOSSIL FUEL (oil, gas, etc.).
The coziness of Russia, and Trump surrogates are just a little too much to ignore and dismiss.
However I must agree with you about the total ignorance of our populous.
Most know the latest news about random celebrities than our government and it’s mechanization.
Many are influenced by “thought-leaders” and pundits on both the left and the right.
Furthermore I also agree with you that there is “hysteria on the left and idiocy on the right”, however your article does a disservice to your thesis as your argument doesn’t follow the thesis your title proposes.
Respectfully as a result your lack of a balanced argument reinforces the “idiocy on the right”.
Proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur, Muckraker and someone, who I hope is intelligent enough to riddle you an response.
Regards,
Robbin Smith
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Robbin Smith says:
Good morning Wayne,
I hope all is well in the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky.
I enjoy your observations and read them often however this sounds like textbook Trump apologist talking points.
Your thesis that Russia didn’t “meddle” in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed.
Notwithstanding the aforementioned fact that the intelligence community has stated that there is ample evidence to that fact, there is also ample reason for that “meddling” you so patently dismiss.
The NATO issue alone is more than enough reason for Russian involvement.
Not to mention Syria and Ukraine and other hot-bed Russian issues that a President Clinton would be much tougher on then President Trump has shown he is willing to be.
Also not to mention a number of other economic, environmental and diplomatic issues, and not to bury the lead, but the 800 pound gorilla in the room-FOSSIL FUEL (oil, gas, etc.).
The coziness of Russia, and Trump surrogates are just a little too much to ignore and dismiss.
However I must agree with you about the total ignorance of our populous.
Most know the latest news about random celebrities than our government and it’s mechanization.
Many are influenced by “thought-leaders” and pundits on both the left and the right.
Furthermore I also agree with you that there is “hysteria on the left and idiocy on the right”, however your article does a disservice to your thesis as your argument doesn’t follow the thesis your title proposes.
Respectfully as a result your lack of a balanced argument reinforces the “idiocy on the right”.
Proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur, Muckraker and someone, who I hope is intelligent enough to riddle you an response.
Regards,
Robbin Smith
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Re: THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 5, 2017 AT 7:10 PM
Paul Plante says:
Good day to you, Robbin Smith, and let me say on behalf of a grateful nation how glad and pleased we all are, and this would have to include the candid world, as well, since, as you know, what you call the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky (that drew quite a lot of hearty guffaws from us old folks who diligently follow the CCM as our window on the world, which guffaws are always appreciated by us old folks, as being able to laugh is a key to longevity) is a global publication now, so that Putin himself might be chuckling at your joke right now, as he studies the CCM to try and get a handle on what REAL AMERICANS are thinking, as opposed to all these pundits in the press and all these supposed “intelligence” sources, most of whom are never even named, nor is their actual possession of intellect ever established, to see you coming in here as you have done to try and riddle us on exactly how it was that OUR elections were either meddled with or interfered with.
And here is where it is felt among the community of old combat veterans of which I am a part that your skill as a riddler falls far short of your skill as a humorist, raconteur, proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur and Muckraker who sadly was almost, but not quite intelligent enough to riddle me a response to my guest opinion piece above here, which has them calling out “Don’t quit your day job,” and “Get the hook!”.
As to my opinion piece reading, in your opinion as a Muckraker, like textbook Trump apologist talking points, I would say not hardly and not by a long shot since I am not and never have a Trump supporter or toady or lickspittle or disciple or acolyte, so that I am not any kind of apologist for him or anything he says or does, but hey, nice try to try and divert the subject.
Moving along, we next come to your seriously flawed statement that “Your (my) thesis that Russia didn’t ‘meddle’ in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed.”
And here we are with this “numerous intelligence sources” crap, which, quite frankly, especially to a Viet Nam combat veteran well aware of government “intelligence”, which its IQ hovering in the low 50’s, at best, is a total bull**** statement that means nothing whatsoever at all.
For all we know, your so-called and un-named “intelligence sources” are in actuality inmates of a psychiatric institute where for therapy, they give them tablets and let them TWEET their intelligence to the other TWEETERS on TWITTER, who then start re-TWEETING those TWEETS as confirmed intelligence, when it is the ravings of the insane, instead.
For an excellent example of how “gummint” intelligence is skewed to fit political ends, in this case, the needs of the Democrat party, let us for a moment turn to pp.100-102 of “A BETTER WAR, The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of America’s Last Years in Vietnam” by Lewis Sorley, a third-generation graduate of West Point holding a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University with two decades of service in the U.S. Army including command of tank and armored cavalry units, teaching at West Point and the Army War College, and Pentagon staff duty who was later a senior civilian official of the Central Intelligence Agency, where we find this following vignette:
While the Ho Chi Minh Trail was under fierce and continuous air attack, access to the South Vietnamese coast from the sea had since mid-1966 been effectively sealed off through intensive patrolling by South Vietnamese and U.S. ships.
But there was a flood of supplies coming into the Cambodian port of Sihanoukville and then through Cambodia into III and IV Corps of South Vietnam and even up to the southern portions of II Corps.
By January 1969 it was clear to MACV analysts that Sihanoukville was “the primary point of entry for supplies, especially arms and ammunition, destined for enemy forces in southern South Vietnam.”
**************
The distribution system was well organized and efficient.
After leaving Sihanoukville, the munitions were transported to an arms depot at Kampong Speu, about twenty-five miles southwest of Phnom Penh, or to warehouses in the capital city.
From there they were distributed to enemy base areas in the border region, and eventually to troop units in South Vietnam.
At CIA this picture of the enemy supply system had for a long time been vigorously disputed.
There the “intelligence analysts at the Washington level” really came down to one man, a veteran CIA officer named James Graham.
The lead analyst on the problem, he stubbornly refused, year after year, to be convinced that any significant amount of military wherewithal was reaching the enemy through the port of Sihanoukville.
Within MCV, the “Graham Report” staking out that position became infamous.
MACV was incensed by its obtuseness, as they saw it, or worse.
Later (General) Davidson, who had struggled with this problem when he was MACV J-2, recalled that Graham once said to him, “Sometimes you’ve got to find what you’ve got to find.”
end quotes
“Sometimes you’ve got to find what you’ve got to find,” Robbin Smith, proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur and Muckraker, you know what I am saying here, don’t you?
You know how it is; if you got a career in “intelligence,” even if and especially if you are completely lacking in any of your own, and you want to make it through to retirement, well sometimes, you have to peddle complete bull****, even if other people are going to die as a result, as was the case in Viet Nam in 1969, the year I happened to be there, watching the blood flow and the lives get snuffed out, while your beloved “intelligence” sources peddled their never-ending lies about the “light at the end of the tunnel,” which was more bull**** on top of that already spewed.
And let us look at the word “MEDDLE,” which is far from being a “fifty dollar word,” thus, its meaning is readily accessible even to those of us who are not “intelligence sources.”
“MEDDLE” is a verb which means “interfere in or busy oneself unduly with something that is not one’s concern.”
What is it then, Robbin Smith, in any of this pitiful and infantile and juvenile saga, that is not something of the world’s concern, and Russia’s, as well?
Are you not aware, Robbin Smith, that foreign powers have been concerned with what is going on in this country since before the Declaration of Independence in 1776?
Have you forgotten your schoolboy history lessons where we learned of the concerns of the leading people in this country back then that foreign powers were indeed trying to interfere in our elections?
Foreign powers have been meddling in our affairs as long as we have had affairs to meddle in.
BUT!
Where is or was the so-called “interference?”
As you try but fail miserably to confuse us with your riddling, you have presented us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever of Russian “interference” in our elections, nor can you, since Obama himself said that our election system was secure and was never hacked or otherwise interfered with.
So there was no interference, people.
And Robbin Smith, please, have a glorious day!
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Paul Plante says:
Good day to you, Robbin Smith, and let me say on behalf of a grateful nation how glad and pleased we all are, and this would have to include the candid world, as well, since, as you know, what you call the Socialist Republic of Cape Chucky (that drew quite a lot of hearty guffaws from us old folks who diligently follow the CCM as our window on the world, which guffaws are always appreciated by us old folks, as being able to laugh is a key to longevity) is a global publication now, so that Putin himself might be chuckling at your joke right now, as he studies the CCM to try and get a handle on what REAL AMERICANS are thinking, as opposed to all these pundits in the press and all these supposed “intelligence” sources, most of whom are never even named, nor is their actual possession of intellect ever established, to see you coming in here as you have done to try and riddle us on exactly how it was that OUR elections were either meddled with or interfered with.
And here is where it is felt among the community of old combat veterans of which I am a part that your skill as a riddler falls far short of your skill as a humorist, raconteur, proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur and Muckraker who sadly was almost, but not quite intelligent enough to riddle me a response to my guest opinion piece above here, which has them calling out “Don’t quit your day job,” and “Get the hook!”.
As to my opinion piece reading, in your opinion as a Muckraker, like textbook Trump apologist talking points, I would say not hardly and not by a long shot since I am not and never have a Trump supporter or toady or lickspittle or disciple or acolyte, so that I am not any kind of apologist for him or anything he says or does, but hey, nice try to try and divert the subject.
Moving along, we next come to your seriously flawed statement that “Your (my) thesis that Russia didn’t ‘meddle’ in our elections, despite numerous intelligence sources to the contrary, is blatantly flawed.”
And here we are with this “numerous intelligence sources” crap, which, quite frankly, especially to a Viet Nam combat veteran well aware of government “intelligence”, which its IQ hovering in the low 50’s, at best, is a total bull**** statement that means nothing whatsoever at all.
For all we know, your so-called and un-named “intelligence sources” are in actuality inmates of a psychiatric institute where for therapy, they give them tablets and let them TWEET their intelligence to the other TWEETERS on TWITTER, who then start re-TWEETING those TWEETS as confirmed intelligence, when it is the ravings of the insane, instead.
For an excellent example of how “gummint” intelligence is skewed to fit political ends, in this case, the needs of the Democrat party, let us for a moment turn to pp.100-102 of “A BETTER WAR, The Unexamined Victories and Final Tragedy of America’s Last Years in Vietnam” by Lewis Sorley, a third-generation graduate of West Point holding a doctorate from Johns Hopkins University with two decades of service in the U.S. Army including command of tank and armored cavalry units, teaching at West Point and the Army War College, and Pentagon staff duty who was later a senior civilian official of the Central Intelligence Agency, where we find this following vignette:
While the Ho Chi Minh Trail was under fierce and continuous air attack, access to the South Vietnamese coast from the sea had since mid-1966 been effectively sealed off through intensive patrolling by South Vietnamese and U.S. ships.
But there was a flood of supplies coming into the Cambodian port of Sihanoukville and then through Cambodia into III and IV Corps of South Vietnam and even up to the southern portions of II Corps.
By January 1969 it was clear to MACV analysts that Sihanoukville was “the primary point of entry for supplies, especially arms and ammunition, destined for enemy forces in southern South Vietnam.”
**************
The distribution system was well organized and efficient.
After leaving Sihanoukville, the munitions were transported to an arms depot at Kampong Speu, about twenty-five miles southwest of Phnom Penh, or to warehouses in the capital city.
From there they were distributed to enemy base areas in the border region, and eventually to troop units in South Vietnam.
At CIA this picture of the enemy supply system had for a long time been vigorously disputed.
There the “intelligence analysts at the Washington level” really came down to one man, a veteran CIA officer named James Graham.
The lead analyst on the problem, he stubbornly refused, year after year, to be convinced that any significant amount of military wherewithal was reaching the enemy through the port of Sihanoukville.
Within MCV, the “Graham Report” staking out that position became infamous.
MACV was incensed by its obtuseness, as they saw it, or worse.
Later (General) Davidson, who had struggled with this problem when he was MACV J-2, recalled that Graham once said to him, “Sometimes you’ve got to find what you’ve got to find.”
end quotes
“Sometimes you’ve got to find what you’ve got to find,” Robbin Smith, proud former Cape Charles Restaurateur and Muckraker, you know what I am saying here, don’t you?
You know how it is; if you got a career in “intelligence,” even if and especially if you are completely lacking in any of your own, and you want to make it through to retirement, well sometimes, you have to peddle complete bull****, even if other people are going to die as a result, as was the case in Viet Nam in 1969, the year I happened to be there, watching the blood flow and the lives get snuffed out, while your beloved “intelligence” sources peddled their never-ending lies about the “light at the end of the tunnel,” which was more bull**** on top of that already spewed.
And let us look at the word “MEDDLE,” which is far from being a “fifty dollar word,” thus, its meaning is readily accessible even to those of us who are not “intelligence sources.”
“MEDDLE” is a verb which means “interfere in or busy oneself unduly with something that is not one’s concern.”
What is it then, Robbin Smith, in any of this pitiful and infantile and juvenile saga, that is not something of the world’s concern, and Russia’s, as well?
Are you not aware, Robbin Smith, that foreign powers have been concerned with what is going on in this country since before the Declaration of Independence in 1776?
Have you forgotten your schoolboy history lessons where we learned of the concerns of the leading people in this country back then that foreign powers were indeed trying to interfere in our elections?
Foreign powers have been meddling in our affairs as long as we have had affairs to meddle in.
BUT!
Where is or was the so-called “interference?”
As you try but fail miserably to confuse us with your riddling, you have presented us with absolutely no evidence whatsoever of Russian “interference” in our elections, nor can you, since Obama himself said that our election system was secure and was never hacked or otherwise interfered with.
So there was no interference, people.
And Robbin Smith, please, have a glorious day!
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Re: THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 5, 2017 AT 2:32 PM
Chas Cornweller says:
Well, Paul good to have you back!
I see the naysayers, Whigs and wags could not keep you from your appointed tasks.
For that I applaud you sir.
What I cannot applaud, however, is this article.
Hillary bashing is sooo twenty sixteen.
I think it is high time for all of us to move on.
But, aside from that, you bring up some very interesting questions regarding the status of Democracy, election results, Russian interference and the very nature of the intelligence of the general populace.
Whew!
Quite a bit of bacon to chew on.
Two things I want to address.
Russian interference and the intelligence of the general populace.
First, let’s pretend the Russians didn’t hack into the DNC.
Let’s pretend Hillary wins in sixteen.
And let’s just play the political game of she’s in the White House and the fact leaks out that the DNC meddled and fixed the election to oust Bernie Sanders and insure that Hillary Clinton is installed as premiere candidate supreme.
But, wait!
That did happen, in July 22, 2016.
So, even the DNC eats its own.
Big surprise, huh?
But, we would not have known about this unless the hack had not taken place.
Who gets credit for that hack?
Take your time…I’ll wait.
That’s right!
Slowly released as “leaks” within the party itself was the initial public press report.
But, over a period (two to three weeks) it was shown that the hackers themselves led back to Russian intelligence groups.
It was shown by US intelligence agencies (stated with “high confidence”) that Russia was behind the thief of the e-mails and documents from the DNC.
So, that was the first round to undermine public confidence in the election system.
The second time Russia interfered (November 6, 2016-two days before the election) was the release of more information via WikiLeaks centered of the e-mails that corresponded with John Podesta specifically, which upon close scrutiny by its author, found to have been doctored to manipulate even more damage to the Democratic National Committee.
Did all this cost Hillary votes?
Did it cost her the election?
Does that even matter, at this juncture?
My point is this, if Russia hacked information from American servers and foisted back on the American public via (take your pick) fake news, Fox News, CNN, WikiLeaks, Facebook, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, nearly every basement dwelling blogger from here to the “Left” Coast and Donald Trump and all of his mouth pieces, what does that tell you?
Does that not smell like espionage to you?
Isn’t espionage an act of war?
It certainly is a treasonable offence in this country.
Has it not left a pit in our collective stomachs that Russian acted with impunity to sabotage the Democratic National Party in mid and end of race?
Not, of course, that they needed much help…but my point is this.
You could blame some poor fool sitting in his mother’s basement in a hoodie, wearing a Guy Fawkes mask tearing about the main servers at the DNC, but don’t you think they would have been caught by now.
Remember?
Treasonous acts and the like.
Red meat for the ill-informed.
But, that did not happen.
It all points to Putinland.
I am sorry, but I trust our nation’s intelligence agency far more than I do any of the mouth pieces for either party right now.
Now, my second point.
Intelligence within the general populace.
To quote a good friend of mine and a great songwriter with Acoustic Syndicate, Steve McMurry; “Living here ain’t all it’s cracked up to be…some of us can’t handle all the pain."
"Some of us are smarter than others, I can’t get myself out of the rain.”
The plain truth is, you have smart people and you have stupid people.
You have people well versed in the arts, politics, history, literature, the classics.
And the flip side is you have yokels, knuckleheads, stubborn and angry, waiting on a miracle.
People who are still believing in the American dream.
Hanging on for dear life, hoping that brass ring comes back around again.
You have people willing to buy into whatever they are selling.
They are the fake news watchers, believers in the evils of this world with no solution.
Just venom and fire to back up their words.
Words based upon years of dog whistles, commentary from the radio, lies from on high and lies from down low.
Years of fake news.
Example: True or false.
Barrack Obama is a Muslim and was not born within the boundaries of the United States?
American intelligence…it is only as good as the education you give yourself every single day of your waking life.
If you don’t read outside your comfort zone.
If you don’t venture outside your cultural bubble.
If you don’t learn a second or even third language or follow another country’s news feeds.
If you cannot abide listening to another’s view point, opposite your own without blowing a cranium gasket, then you are one of the “the others” Steve McMurry wrote about.
Wisdom is not IQ scores.
Wisdom is quiet reflection on the world around you and hearing what others have to say.
Wisdom is NOT taught in school.
Wisdom is nurtured, fostered and earned over years.
Wisdom is growing a little every day and is applied back to make this a better world.
In short, I question the wisdom of the general path of this great nation of ours.
That reflects on the general intelligence of the general populace.
The more Bull that is feed to us via news feeds and the like, the more confused, complacent, and mistrusting of the very sources that should have the people’s best interest at heart as the center of their livelihoods becomes.
But, being of sound intelligence, I distrust generally everything I read, hear, view at first glance.
I check sources and I read, hear, view multiple sources to glean what I believe satisfies my worldview.
Maybe, just maybe…by my using that method of following current history (daily news-people) I watched a first world oligarchy reach into our election process and with greasy, dirty fingers manipulate the machinery.
Fake News?
I think not.
And as a citizen of this great country of ours, I am incensed that nothing is being done about this.
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Chas Cornweller says:
Well, Paul good to have you back!
I see the naysayers, Whigs and wags could not keep you from your appointed tasks.
For that I applaud you sir.
What I cannot applaud, however, is this article.
Hillary bashing is sooo twenty sixteen.
I think it is high time for all of us to move on.
But, aside from that, you bring up some very interesting questions regarding the status of Democracy, election results, Russian interference and the very nature of the intelligence of the general populace.
Whew!
Quite a bit of bacon to chew on.
Two things I want to address.
Russian interference and the intelligence of the general populace.
First, let’s pretend the Russians didn’t hack into the DNC.
Let’s pretend Hillary wins in sixteen.
And let’s just play the political game of she’s in the White House and the fact leaks out that the DNC meddled and fixed the election to oust Bernie Sanders and insure that Hillary Clinton is installed as premiere candidate supreme.
But, wait!
That did happen, in July 22, 2016.
So, even the DNC eats its own.
Big surprise, huh?
But, we would not have known about this unless the hack had not taken place.
Who gets credit for that hack?
Take your time…I’ll wait.
That’s right!
Slowly released as “leaks” within the party itself was the initial public press report.
But, over a period (two to three weeks) it was shown that the hackers themselves led back to Russian intelligence groups.
It was shown by US intelligence agencies (stated with “high confidence”) that Russia was behind the thief of the e-mails and documents from the DNC.
So, that was the first round to undermine public confidence in the election system.
The second time Russia interfered (November 6, 2016-two days before the election) was the release of more information via WikiLeaks centered of the e-mails that corresponded with John Podesta specifically, which upon close scrutiny by its author, found to have been doctored to manipulate even more damage to the Democratic National Committee.
Did all this cost Hillary votes?
Did it cost her the election?
Does that even matter, at this juncture?
My point is this, if Russia hacked information from American servers and foisted back on the American public via (take your pick) fake news, Fox News, CNN, WikiLeaks, Facebook, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, nearly every basement dwelling blogger from here to the “Left” Coast and Donald Trump and all of his mouth pieces, what does that tell you?
Does that not smell like espionage to you?
Isn’t espionage an act of war?
It certainly is a treasonable offence in this country.
Has it not left a pit in our collective stomachs that Russian acted with impunity to sabotage the Democratic National Party in mid and end of race?
Not, of course, that they needed much help…but my point is this.
You could blame some poor fool sitting in his mother’s basement in a hoodie, wearing a Guy Fawkes mask tearing about the main servers at the DNC, but don’t you think they would have been caught by now.
Remember?
Treasonous acts and the like.
Red meat for the ill-informed.
But, that did not happen.
It all points to Putinland.
I am sorry, but I trust our nation’s intelligence agency far more than I do any of the mouth pieces for either party right now.
Now, my second point.
Intelligence within the general populace.
To quote a good friend of mine and a great songwriter with Acoustic Syndicate, Steve McMurry; “Living here ain’t all it’s cracked up to be…some of us can’t handle all the pain."
"Some of us are smarter than others, I can’t get myself out of the rain.”
The plain truth is, you have smart people and you have stupid people.
You have people well versed in the arts, politics, history, literature, the classics.
And the flip side is you have yokels, knuckleheads, stubborn and angry, waiting on a miracle.
People who are still believing in the American dream.
Hanging on for dear life, hoping that brass ring comes back around again.
You have people willing to buy into whatever they are selling.
They are the fake news watchers, believers in the evils of this world with no solution.
Just venom and fire to back up their words.
Words based upon years of dog whistles, commentary from the radio, lies from on high and lies from down low.
Years of fake news.
Example: True or false.
Barrack Obama is a Muslim and was not born within the boundaries of the United States?
American intelligence…it is only as good as the education you give yourself every single day of your waking life.
If you don’t read outside your comfort zone.
If you don’t venture outside your cultural bubble.
If you don’t learn a second or even third language or follow another country’s news feeds.
If you cannot abide listening to another’s view point, opposite your own without blowing a cranium gasket, then you are one of the “the others” Steve McMurry wrote about.
Wisdom is not IQ scores.
Wisdom is quiet reflection on the world around you and hearing what others have to say.
Wisdom is NOT taught in school.
Wisdom is nurtured, fostered and earned over years.
Wisdom is growing a little every day and is applied back to make this a better world.
In short, I question the wisdom of the general path of this great nation of ours.
That reflects on the general intelligence of the general populace.
The more Bull that is feed to us via news feeds and the like, the more confused, complacent, and mistrusting of the very sources that should have the people’s best interest at heart as the center of their livelihoods becomes.
But, being of sound intelligence, I distrust generally everything I read, hear, view at first glance.
I check sources and I read, hear, view multiple sources to glean what I believe satisfies my worldview.
Maybe, just maybe…by my using that method of following current history (daily news-people) I watched a first world oligarchy reach into our election process and with greasy, dirty fingers manipulate the machinery.
Fake News?
I think not.
And as a citizen of this great country of ours, I am incensed that nothing is being done about this.
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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 5, 2017 AT 7:44 PM
Paul Plante says:
Chas Cornweller, so good to see you as well, especially with your comments above where you attempt to conflate the Democrat party and the Democrat National Committee with our national government.
Neither the Democrat party nor the Democrat National Committee have anything whatsoever to do with our national government in this nation, so that allegation that they were hacked cannot in any possible way be conflated with an “attack” on our government, or interference of any kind in our elections.
Our elections have nothing whatsoever to do with Democrat party or the Democrat National Committee, and the Democrat party and the Democrat National Committee have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with our national elections, although if anyone was to be suspected or accused of meddling, and interfering in our elections, it would be either the Democrat party or the Democrat National Committee, since the Democrat party has a long and established history of meddling and interfering in our elections.
As to the Democrat party meddling and interfering in our elections, who can forget that in the 1870s, Democrats gradually regained power in the Southern legislatures by using insurgent paramilitary groups, such as the White League and Red Shirts, to disrupt Republican organizing, run Republican officeholders out of town, and intimidate blacks to suppress their voting.
That is what meddling and interfering look like in real life, Chas Cornweller.
The White League was an American white supremacist paramilitary terrorist organization started in 1874 to turn Republicans out of office and intimidate freedmen from voting and political organizing.
That is meddling and interfering, well expressed right there.
Did the Russians do that in America in 2016?
Affiliated with the Democratic Party, the White League was one of the paramilitary groups described as “the military arm of the Democratic Party,” and through violence and intimidation, its members suppressed Republican voting and contributed to the Democrats’ taking control of the Louisiana Legislature in 1876.
The Red Shirts or Redshirts of the Southern United States were white supremacist terrorist groups that were active in the late 19th century after the end of the Reconstruction era of the United States, and they first appeared in Mississippi in 1875, when Democratic Party private terror units adopted red shirts to make themselves more visible and threatening to Southern Republicans, both white and freedmen.
The Red Shirts were one of several paramilitary organizations arising in the continuing efforts of white Democrats to regain political power in the South in the 1870s.
These groups acted as “the military arm of the Democratic Party” and they had one goal: the restoration of the Democrats to power by getting rid of Republicans, which usually meant repressing civil rights and voting by the freedmen, and during the 1876, 1898 and 1900 campaigns in North Carolina, the Red Shirts played prominent roles in intimidating non-Democratic voters.
What did the Russians do in 2016 that matches any of that meddling and interfering with our elections that can be attributed to the Democrat party, itself?
And that answer is NOTHING?
They hacked the DNC and made them look like the incompetent fools they are?
OH, BOO HOO HOO!
The DNC is a private organization, not an arm of our government, and if they are so incompetent as to allow themselves to be hacked and embarrassed by the Russians, then that is a clear sign that we are better off without that crowd having anything to do with our government, and especially, our national security.
And “Hillary bashing is sooo twenty sixteen?”
Where, pray tell, Chas Cornweller, was our precious and special Hillary, who is a national treasure who is deeply and sincerely loved by every loyal and patriotic American, including, of course, myself, bashed in here, where “BASH” is a verb meaning “strike hard and violently,” with synonyms such as strike, hit, beat, thump, slap, smack, bang, knock, batter, pound, pummel, wallop, clout, belt, whack, thwack, clobber, bop, sock or smite.
Where have I clouted, bopped, socked or thumped dear precious and special Hillary, Chas Cornweller?
Edify me, as I am failing to see it, myself.
Surely you do not suggest that if anyone in this country dares to question a single word uttered by Hillary in a public forum in 2017, they are “bashing” Hillary?
Do you?
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Paul Plante says:
Chas Cornweller, so good to see you as well, especially with your comments above where you attempt to conflate the Democrat party and the Democrat National Committee with our national government.
Neither the Democrat party nor the Democrat National Committee have anything whatsoever to do with our national government in this nation, so that allegation that they were hacked cannot in any possible way be conflated with an “attack” on our government, or interference of any kind in our elections.
Our elections have nothing whatsoever to do with Democrat party or the Democrat National Committee, and the Democrat party and the Democrat National Committee have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with our national elections, although if anyone was to be suspected or accused of meddling, and interfering in our elections, it would be either the Democrat party or the Democrat National Committee, since the Democrat party has a long and established history of meddling and interfering in our elections.
As to the Democrat party meddling and interfering in our elections, who can forget that in the 1870s, Democrats gradually regained power in the Southern legislatures by using insurgent paramilitary groups, such as the White League and Red Shirts, to disrupt Republican organizing, run Republican officeholders out of town, and intimidate blacks to suppress their voting.
That is what meddling and interfering look like in real life, Chas Cornweller.
The White League was an American white supremacist paramilitary terrorist organization started in 1874 to turn Republicans out of office and intimidate freedmen from voting and political organizing.
That is meddling and interfering, well expressed right there.
Did the Russians do that in America in 2016?
Affiliated with the Democratic Party, the White League was one of the paramilitary groups described as “the military arm of the Democratic Party,” and through violence and intimidation, its members suppressed Republican voting and contributed to the Democrats’ taking control of the Louisiana Legislature in 1876.
The Red Shirts or Redshirts of the Southern United States were white supremacist terrorist groups that were active in the late 19th century after the end of the Reconstruction era of the United States, and they first appeared in Mississippi in 1875, when Democratic Party private terror units adopted red shirts to make themselves more visible and threatening to Southern Republicans, both white and freedmen.
The Red Shirts were one of several paramilitary organizations arising in the continuing efforts of white Democrats to regain political power in the South in the 1870s.
These groups acted as “the military arm of the Democratic Party” and they had one goal: the restoration of the Democrats to power by getting rid of Republicans, which usually meant repressing civil rights and voting by the freedmen, and during the 1876, 1898 and 1900 campaigns in North Carolina, the Red Shirts played prominent roles in intimidating non-Democratic voters.
What did the Russians do in 2016 that matches any of that meddling and interfering with our elections that can be attributed to the Democrat party, itself?
And that answer is NOTHING?
They hacked the DNC and made them look like the incompetent fools they are?
OH, BOO HOO HOO!
The DNC is a private organization, not an arm of our government, and if they are so incompetent as to allow themselves to be hacked and embarrassed by the Russians, then that is a clear sign that we are better off without that crowd having anything to do with our government, and especially, our national security.
And “Hillary bashing is sooo twenty sixteen?”
Where, pray tell, Chas Cornweller, was our precious and special Hillary, who is a national treasure who is deeply and sincerely loved by every loyal and patriotic American, including, of course, myself, bashed in here, where “BASH” is a verb meaning “strike hard and violently,” with synonyms such as strike, hit, beat, thump, slap, smack, bang, knock, batter, pound, pummel, wallop, clout, belt, whack, thwack, clobber, bop, sock or smite.
Where have I clouted, bopped, socked or thumped dear precious and special Hillary, Chas Cornweller?
Edify me, as I am failing to see it, myself.
Surely you do not suggest that if anyone in this country dares to question a single word uttered by Hillary in a public forum in 2017, they are “bashing” Hillary?
Do you?
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Re: THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 6, 2017 AT 2:52 PM
Chas Cornweller says:
Well, Paul Plante, I must say…you’ve got me there.
Yes, the Democratic National Committee as well as the Republican National Committee are as separate from our government as General Motors is.
They are private institutions set up to maintain and garner support for their prospective candidates.
How could have I been so blind.
So, the Russians tapping into a “Private” organization is perfectly fine and “normal” for you?
Never mind that the “Smoke” from an unknown, as yet unfounded “Smoking Gun” emulates from the White House.
I “survived” the Nixon meltdown years.
I remember the “pushback” that came from the White House then.
The slow drip, drip, drip of denials, lies, allegations and “Smoke, but no fire” scenarios.
And, truthfully, I believe the man doth protest too much.
He is attacking leakers instead of going after and shining a light on the “allegations” of a hack.
If he truly wanted this to go away, he would have cooperated from the very beginning and fully backed the investigation committee in their investigations.
But, we have gotten nothing but the opposite.
Complaints, demands, tweets off the cuff, several firings and a slow, drip, drip, drip of the leaky faucet somewhere in the kitchen.
Frankly, I am sick and tired of the smoke and mirrors.
The clown show and the daily circuses.
While Rome burns and the rest of the world inhales her smoke, this nincompoop fiddles away, frittering the last of any moral collateral we may have left.
And quite honestly, I was not all that happy with the legacy of previous administration.
And though a black man (technically, mulatto; as the gentleman southerner used to say) was in the seat of the presidency, I thought he held that position with aplomb, grace and dignity.
Never mind the storm of hatred, visceral racism and death-threats that surrounded his presidency for eight years.
The threats, and abuse the Obama family had to endure just go to show how vile this country has become deep down in its own moral fiber.
The grace that Jackie Kennedy endured for four days, oh so long ago, Michelle Obama endured for eight years, and mostly without large, dark shades.
So, I applaud the Obamas, not for being black, but for being real people.
And enduring.
But, know also, I am not a big fan of Hillary either, my friend.
And yes, the DNC made it easy for the Russians (“Allegedly” … I said, allegedly) to take her down.
Between the two committees (RNC, DNC), there is nothing I wouldn’t put past them to attempt to get their candidate elected.
It seems the higher the seat (translate – “The Greater the Power”) the crazier the stunts.
And my point from my previous comment was directly related to this and the ignorance of the average American.
Hillary bashing is a fine sport, just as is Trump bashing.
Truth is, no one cares…except those doing the bashing and those baited by that basher.
It’s just that it gets old with me.
We both know what these politicians are.
There is no need to waste ink space on the definitions.
But, I really, really, wonder what the RNC and the Republican party would have done, if this Russian stunt had been rolled out on Obama’s watch?
Hmm?
Lastly, still don’t care the Russians (again “Allegedly”) hacked a private server to manipulate the American voter?
What if Russia had hacked into the Pentagon and released covert operation materials or another treatise comparable to the Pentagon Papers a la Daniel Ellsberg?
What if Russia hacked …allegedly…into General Motors itself, a private entity and a fortune five hundred company to manipulate the stock market the following day?
And Putin and a half dozen of his cronies walked off with a windfall from our very own Wall Street?
A lot of what if’s Mr. Plante… but I think you get my point.
Where is the questioning?
Where is, the indignation aimed at Russia and Putin himself?
The ether-net is the new battle ground, sir.
Just as the skies over Germany in 1942 were the new battle ground.
Battle grounds change, come and go and return.
Recognizing the high ground early and taking it, makes for an easier victory.
Realizing too late (vis a vis Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg) can be a costly mistake.
But then again, we have a man in the White House today that (to quote) “knows more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.”
Let’s just hope he knows a little something about Russia too.
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Chas Cornweller says:
Well, Paul Plante, I must say…you’ve got me there.
Yes, the Democratic National Committee as well as the Republican National Committee are as separate from our government as General Motors is.
They are private institutions set up to maintain and garner support for their prospective candidates.
How could have I been so blind.
So, the Russians tapping into a “Private” organization is perfectly fine and “normal” for you?
Never mind that the “Smoke” from an unknown, as yet unfounded “Smoking Gun” emulates from the White House.
I “survived” the Nixon meltdown years.
I remember the “pushback” that came from the White House then.
The slow drip, drip, drip of denials, lies, allegations and “Smoke, but no fire” scenarios.
And, truthfully, I believe the man doth protest too much.
He is attacking leakers instead of going after and shining a light on the “allegations” of a hack.
If he truly wanted this to go away, he would have cooperated from the very beginning and fully backed the investigation committee in their investigations.
But, we have gotten nothing but the opposite.
Complaints, demands, tweets off the cuff, several firings and a slow, drip, drip, drip of the leaky faucet somewhere in the kitchen.
Frankly, I am sick and tired of the smoke and mirrors.
The clown show and the daily circuses.
While Rome burns and the rest of the world inhales her smoke, this nincompoop fiddles away, frittering the last of any moral collateral we may have left.
And quite honestly, I was not all that happy with the legacy of previous administration.
And though a black man (technically, mulatto; as the gentleman southerner used to say) was in the seat of the presidency, I thought he held that position with aplomb, grace and dignity.
Never mind the storm of hatred, visceral racism and death-threats that surrounded his presidency for eight years.
The threats, and abuse the Obama family had to endure just go to show how vile this country has become deep down in its own moral fiber.
The grace that Jackie Kennedy endured for four days, oh so long ago, Michelle Obama endured for eight years, and mostly without large, dark shades.
So, I applaud the Obamas, not for being black, but for being real people.
And enduring.
But, know also, I am not a big fan of Hillary either, my friend.
And yes, the DNC made it easy for the Russians (“Allegedly” … I said, allegedly) to take her down.
Between the two committees (RNC, DNC), there is nothing I wouldn’t put past them to attempt to get their candidate elected.
It seems the higher the seat (translate – “The Greater the Power”) the crazier the stunts.
And my point from my previous comment was directly related to this and the ignorance of the average American.
Hillary bashing is a fine sport, just as is Trump bashing.
Truth is, no one cares…except those doing the bashing and those baited by that basher.
It’s just that it gets old with me.
We both know what these politicians are.
There is no need to waste ink space on the definitions.
But, I really, really, wonder what the RNC and the Republican party would have done, if this Russian stunt had been rolled out on Obama’s watch?
Hmm?
Lastly, still don’t care the Russians (again “Allegedly”) hacked a private server to manipulate the American voter?
What if Russia had hacked into the Pentagon and released covert operation materials or another treatise comparable to the Pentagon Papers a la Daniel Ellsberg?
What if Russia hacked …allegedly…into General Motors itself, a private entity and a fortune five hundred company to manipulate the stock market the following day?
And Putin and a half dozen of his cronies walked off with a windfall from our very own Wall Street?
A lot of what if’s Mr. Plante… but I think you get my point.
Where is the questioning?
Where is, the indignation aimed at Russia and Putin himself?
The ether-net is the new battle ground, sir.
Just as the skies over Germany in 1942 were the new battle ground.
Battle grounds change, come and go and return.
Recognizing the high ground early and taking it, makes for an easier victory.
Realizing too late (vis a vis Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg) can be a costly mistake.
But then again, we have a man in the White House today that (to quote) “knows more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.”
Let’s just hope he knows a little something about Russia too.
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Re: THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 6, 2017 AT 6:33 PM
Paul Plante says:
So, the Russians tapping into a “Private” organization is perfectly fine and “normal” for me?
HUH?
What kind of covfefe statement about me would that make were it to be so, Chas Cornweller?
You are an intelligent man, Chas Cornweller, so how, except for the sake of promoting further discussion through the vehicle of intelligent argumentation, could you come up with such an idea, and that on many levels?
No, Chas Cornweller, I am very much against lawlessness and anarchy and trespassing and breaking and entering and criminal activities, all of which to me describe and define “hacking.”
But so what, Chas Cornweller?
Is my being against hacking or denouncing it going to stop it from happening, especially to fools such as the Democrat National Committee or any other fools, for that matter, on that level, who don’t know enough or are too incompetent to keep it from happening to them?
In that sense, Chas Cornweller, I would have to be considered a Darwinist, where I can perceive the world as composed of predators and their prey, and in this case, metaphorically speaking, the Democrats were easy prey to whatever it was out there, be it Putin or the KGB, or the ABC, or the XYZ, or some real smart kid in Hackensack, New Jersey who tricked all these supposed “intelligence” sources into believing he was really Russian intelligence, that was preying on them, for whatever reason that might in fact have been, which could have been no reason at all other than to see if it could be done.
So that should put that issue to bed, although I would be happy to develop my position on hacking further for you, if you need me to.
And then we come to this statement of yours, Chas Cornweller, which begs a response: “Lastly, still don’t care the Russians (again “Allegedly”) hacked a private server to manipulate the American voter?”
My response to that would have to be, since I am a rational person trained in the detachment of science so as to enable me to perform the duties of an associate level public health engineer to protect human health and well-being, what people?
What people were manipulated by the hacking you allege?
And how?
Are you hypothesizing here that there were people weak-witted enough to be manipulated by the Russians, or are you saying that you actually know people that weak-witted?
And my goodness, Chas Cornweller, what a statement about the American people of today that is, if they are so ignorant they could be manipulated by any Russian.
And what if Russia had hacked into the Pentagon and released covert operation materials or another treatise comparable to the Pentagon Papers a la Daniel Ellsberg?
Or what if Russia hacked into General Motors itself, a private entity and a fortune five hundred company to manipulate the stock market the following day?
And what if Putin and a half dozen of his cronies walked off with a windfall from our very own Wall Street?
Oh, well, would be my response, you know what I am saying here, Chas Cornweller?
If those things happened, and they may well already have, many times over, if the Russians are really as smart and formidable as our intelligence sources make them out to be, far smarter than our best people in this country from the sounds of things, then they happened, just as 9-11 happened, and just as the Viet Nam war happened, and the American Revolution happened.
I’m older than you, Chas Cornweller, and one of the reasons that I am older than you is because I lose no sleep whatsoever over things over which I have no control whatsoever, like the Pentagon or General Motors.
So if they are hacked, they are hacked, and in the case of the Pentagon, if it happened to them, I for one would not be surprised, for as a combat veteran, I harbor no illusions whatsoever that any real intelligence resides in that building, which has given us the never-ending losing war we are fighting in Afghanistnam right now.
As to your statement that “Hillary bashing is a fine sport, just as is Trump bashing,” I would respond by saying that I don’t know, since I don’t bash Hillary.
But at the same time, I also do not treat Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is younger than I am, as some kind of cultural icon in this country who is above reproach and therefore, cannot be questioned in any way.
Were Hillary still in the woods with her gallon jug of T-bird or Ripple, she would be a complete non-issue with me, Chas Cornweller, but she is not in the woods any longer with her jug of wine, and this is no longer 2016, and Hillary is back among us as a public person making pronouncements that demand a response in public.
In THE HILL article “Clinton launches new political action group” by Ben Kamisar, on 15 May 2017, we are informed thusly:
Hillary Clinton on Monday unveiled her new political action organization, Onward Together, which will fundraise for five prominent progressive groups.
“I believe more fiercely than ever that citizen engagement at every level is central to a strong and vibrant democracy,” she wrote.
end quotes
She believes it and guess what, Chas Cornweller, I do, too, so that is exactly what I am doing in here, courtesy of Wayne Creed and the CCM – engaging Hillary Clinton at every level because that is central to a strong and vibrant democracy.
With respect to that engagement, in an ASSOCIATED PRESS article entitled “Clinton: Trump budget an ‘attack of unimaginable cruelty'” by STEVE LeBLANC, Associated Press, on 26 MAY 2017, we are told as follows:
Clinton also painted a portrait of a political environment where some are hostile to the fundamentals of an enlightened society and are engaged in “full-fledged assault on truth and reason.”
end quote
Among those in this country engaged in a “full-fledged assault on truth and reason” would be Hillary Clinton herself, and cultural icon though she may be in this country, she gets no free ride here, Chas Cornweller.
In that same article, Hillary further said, “When people in authority invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society.”
That statement again would apply right back to Hillary herself, being taken by so many tens of millions of people in this country as an authority figure as she is, in addition to being a cultural icon.
And that takes us to the Daily Intelligencer article “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Surreal Post-Election Life” by Rebecca Traister on 26 May 2017, where we have our special and precious Hillary being quoted as follows:
“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin.”
end quotes
What “unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians,” Chas Cornweller?
Can you detail even one for us, because maybe I was sleeping that day, but I am unaware of a single one by either.
In that same article, with respect to Comey, Hillary has this to say:
“I am less surprised than I am worried,” she says of the Comey firing.
“Not that he shouldn’t have been disciplined.”
end quote
Comey should have been disciplined?
For what, exactly?
For doing his job as FBI Director?
Who the hell does this Hillary Clinton think she is anyway?
She is a private citizen just as we are.
She is not some type of species of royalty who is above the law in this country.
So what should Comey have been disciplined for?
For suspecting Hillary of wrongdoing when the evidence pointed that way?
Help us out here if you can, Chas Cornweller, help us lesser intellectual lights here in the United States of America, and in the candid world, as well, understand Hillary’s logic here.
Is she telling us that she is an untouchable?
And finally, in that same article, we have this:
Recently, she has even declared herself a member of “the resistance.”
end quote
The “resistance?”
What the covfefe is this “resistance,” Chas Cornweller?
Is Hillary becoming a partisan who intends to wage guerilla warfare in this country now?
As a loyal American citizen who is sick and tired of all this internecine political warfare going on in this country now, with Hillary’s black-clad “anti-fa” supporters and the Trump supporters having armed stand-offs with each other, I for one would like to know a lot more about this “resistance” movement Hillary has organized.
So what can you tell us about it, Chas Cornweller, as the candid world would really like to know?
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Paul Plante says:
So, the Russians tapping into a “Private” organization is perfectly fine and “normal” for me?
HUH?
What kind of covfefe statement about me would that make were it to be so, Chas Cornweller?
You are an intelligent man, Chas Cornweller, so how, except for the sake of promoting further discussion through the vehicle of intelligent argumentation, could you come up with such an idea, and that on many levels?
No, Chas Cornweller, I am very much against lawlessness and anarchy and trespassing and breaking and entering and criminal activities, all of which to me describe and define “hacking.”
But so what, Chas Cornweller?
Is my being against hacking or denouncing it going to stop it from happening, especially to fools such as the Democrat National Committee or any other fools, for that matter, on that level, who don’t know enough or are too incompetent to keep it from happening to them?
In that sense, Chas Cornweller, I would have to be considered a Darwinist, where I can perceive the world as composed of predators and their prey, and in this case, metaphorically speaking, the Democrats were easy prey to whatever it was out there, be it Putin or the KGB, or the ABC, or the XYZ, or some real smart kid in Hackensack, New Jersey who tricked all these supposed “intelligence” sources into believing he was really Russian intelligence, that was preying on them, for whatever reason that might in fact have been, which could have been no reason at all other than to see if it could be done.
So that should put that issue to bed, although I would be happy to develop my position on hacking further for you, if you need me to.
And then we come to this statement of yours, Chas Cornweller, which begs a response: “Lastly, still don’t care the Russians (again “Allegedly”) hacked a private server to manipulate the American voter?”
My response to that would have to be, since I am a rational person trained in the detachment of science so as to enable me to perform the duties of an associate level public health engineer to protect human health and well-being, what people?
What people were manipulated by the hacking you allege?
And how?
Are you hypothesizing here that there were people weak-witted enough to be manipulated by the Russians, or are you saying that you actually know people that weak-witted?
And my goodness, Chas Cornweller, what a statement about the American people of today that is, if they are so ignorant they could be manipulated by any Russian.
And what if Russia had hacked into the Pentagon and released covert operation materials or another treatise comparable to the Pentagon Papers a la Daniel Ellsberg?
Or what if Russia hacked into General Motors itself, a private entity and a fortune five hundred company to manipulate the stock market the following day?
And what if Putin and a half dozen of his cronies walked off with a windfall from our very own Wall Street?
Oh, well, would be my response, you know what I am saying here, Chas Cornweller?
If those things happened, and they may well already have, many times over, if the Russians are really as smart and formidable as our intelligence sources make them out to be, far smarter than our best people in this country from the sounds of things, then they happened, just as 9-11 happened, and just as the Viet Nam war happened, and the American Revolution happened.
I’m older than you, Chas Cornweller, and one of the reasons that I am older than you is because I lose no sleep whatsoever over things over which I have no control whatsoever, like the Pentagon or General Motors.
So if they are hacked, they are hacked, and in the case of the Pentagon, if it happened to them, I for one would not be surprised, for as a combat veteran, I harbor no illusions whatsoever that any real intelligence resides in that building, which has given us the never-ending losing war we are fighting in Afghanistnam right now.
As to your statement that “Hillary bashing is a fine sport, just as is Trump bashing,” I would respond by saying that I don’t know, since I don’t bash Hillary.
But at the same time, I also do not treat Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is younger than I am, as some kind of cultural icon in this country who is above reproach and therefore, cannot be questioned in any way.
Were Hillary still in the woods with her gallon jug of T-bird or Ripple, she would be a complete non-issue with me, Chas Cornweller, but she is not in the woods any longer with her jug of wine, and this is no longer 2016, and Hillary is back among us as a public person making pronouncements that demand a response in public.
In THE HILL article “Clinton launches new political action group” by Ben Kamisar, on 15 May 2017, we are informed thusly:
Hillary Clinton on Monday unveiled her new political action organization, Onward Together, which will fundraise for five prominent progressive groups.
“I believe more fiercely than ever that citizen engagement at every level is central to a strong and vibrant democracy,” she wrote.
end quotes
She believes it and guess what, Chas Cornweller, I do, too, so that is exactly what I am doing in here, courtesy of Wayne Creed and the CCM – engaging Hillary Clinton at every level because that is central to a strong and vibrant democracy.
With respect to that engagement, in an ASSOCIATED PRESS article entitled “Clinton: Trump budget an ‘attack of unimaginable cruelty'” by STEVE LeBLANC, Associated Press, on 26 MAY 2017, we are told as follows:
Clinton also painted a portrait of a political environment where some are hostile to the fundamentals of an enlightened society and are engaged in “full-fledged assault on truth and reason.”
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Among those in this country engaged in a “full-fledged assault on truth and reason” would be Hillary Clinton herself, and cultural icon though she may be in this country, she gets no free ride here, Chas Cornweller.
In that same article, Hillary further said, “When people in authority invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society.”
That statement again would apply right back to Hillary herself, being taken by so many tens of millions of people in this country as an authority figure as she is, in addition to being a cultural icon.
And that takes us to the Daily Intelligencer article “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Surreal Post-Election Life” by Rebecca Traister on 26 May 2017, where we have our special and precious Hillary being quoted as follows:
“I would have won had I not been subjected to the unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians, aided and abetted by the suppression of the vote, particularly in Wisconsin.”
end quotes
What “unprecedented attacks by Comey and the Russians,” Chas Cornweller?
Can you detail even one for us, because maybe I was sleeping that day, but I am unaware of a single one by either.
In that same article, with respect to Comey, Hillary has this to say:
“I am less surprised than I am worried,” she says of the Comey firing.
“Not that he shouldn’t have been disciplined.”
end quote
Comey should have been disciplined?
For what, exactly?
For doing his job as FBI Director?
Who the hell does this Hillary Clinton think she is anyway?
She is a private citizen just as we are.
She is not some type of species of royalty who is above the law in this country.
So what should Comey have been disciplined for?
For suspecting Hillary of wrongdoing when the evidence pointed that way?
Help us out here if you can, Chas Cornweller, help us lesser intellectual lights here in the United States of America, and in the candid world, as well, understand Hillary’s logic here.
Is she telling us that she is an untouchable?
And finally, in that same article, we have this:
Recently, she has even declared herself a member of “the resistance.”
end quote
The “resistance?”
What the covfefe is this “resistance,” Chas Cornweller?
Is Hillary becoming a partisan who intends to wage guerilla warfare in this country now?
As a loyal American citizen who is sick and tired of all this internecine political warfare going on in this country now, with Hillary’s black-clad “anti-fa” supporters and the Trump supporters having armed stand-offs with each other, I for one would like to know a lot more about this “resistance” movement Hillary has organized.
So what can you tell us about it, Chas Cornweller, as the candid world would really like to know?
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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 5, 2017 AT 9:43 PM
Paul Plante says:
“Listen, there’s a lot of smoke.”
“We have no smoking gun at this point,” Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia said on CNN.
“But there is a lot of smoke.”
That was just today in The Wall Street Journal article “Top Democrat says there’s smoke, but ‘no smoking gun’ yet in Russia probe” By Siobhan Hughes published June 5, 2017 4:04 a.m. ET wherein was stated “The top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee said there was no proof so far of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign, as Congress geared up for a week of high drama highlighted by the testimony of former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey.”
High drama, indeed; this crap is better than any soap opera on TV these days, which is probably why so much media attention is being given to it by the main stream media, who are convinced, before there is any real evidence, that because of the Russians and Jim Comey and now, the data people at the DNC, that despite having the most popular votes, Hillary Clinton was robbed of the United States presidency, as if it were hers as a matter of right, because she is Hillary Clinton, the political darling of every American in this country, except, of course, the Bernie Sanders supporters and the Trump supporters.
As to this latest charge by Hillary Clinton, latest excuse, actually, added to an ever-increasing list of excuses for why she isn’t president, made earlier this week at a media and technology conference in California, where Hillary said the Democratic Party didn’t give her the data-related resources she needed, that sparked what was called “a brutal response from Andrew Therriault, the former director of data science for the Democratic National Committee, on Twitter, as was reported in the CBS NEWS story “DNC data guru denies Hillary Clinton’s claim she ‘inherited nothing'” by Kathryn Watson on 2 JUNE 2017, as follows:
Andrew Therriault, the former director of data science for the Democratic National Committee, said Hillary Clinton’s claim that she “inherited nothing” from the DNC is totally off base.
“DNC data folks: today’s accusations are f***ing bull****, and I hope you understand the good you did despite that nonsense,” Therriault tweeted Wednesday in a series of tweets that have since been deleted but were captured by other news outlets.
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His statement that Hillary’s latest accusations are “f***ing bull****” really serves to underscore the theme of this thread, as gobs and mounds of that substance fly through the air in this country in the guise of actual, fact-based news.
According to that CBS NEWS article, Clinton’s comments on Wednesday resurfaced responses from her critics that Clinton still isn’t owning her loss to now-President Donald Trump.
Clinton said she wasn’t a “perfect” candidate, but that isn’t why she lost, blaming everything from the Democrats’ data operations to the media covering her email scandal like “Pearl Harbor.”
BOO HOO HOO, Hillary!
Hype to the right of us, hysteria to the left, and idiocy all around, in spades!
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Paul Plante says:
“Listen, there’s a lot of smoke.”
“We have no smoking gun at this point,” Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia said on CNN.
“But there is a lot of smoke.”
That was just today in The Wall Street Journal article “Top Democrat says there’s smoke, but ‘no smoking gun’ yet in Russia probe” By Siobhan Hughes published June 5, 2017 4:04 a.m. ET wherein was stated “The top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee said there was no proof so far of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign, as Congress geared up for a week of high drama highlighted by the testimony of former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey.”
High drama, indeed; this crap is better than any soap opera on TV these days, which is probably why so much media attention is being given to it by the main stream media, who are convinced, before there is any real evidence, that because of the Russians and Jim Comey and now, the data people at the DNC, that despite having the most popular votes, Hillary Clinton was robbed of the United States presidency, as if it were hers as a matter of right, because she is Hillary Clinton, the political darling of every American in this country, except, of course, the Bernie Sanders supporters and the Trump supporters.
As to this latest charge by Hillary Clinton, latest excuse, actually, added to an ever-increasing list of excuses for why she isn’t president, made earlier this week at a media and technology conference in California, where Hillary said the Democratic Party didn’t give her the data-related resources she needed, that sparked what was called “a brutal response from Andrew Therriault, the former director of data science for the Democratic National Committee, on Twitter, as was reported in the CBS NEWS story “DNC data guru denies Hillary Clinton’s claim she ‘inherited nothing'” by Kathryn Watson on 2 JUNE 2017, as follows:
Andrew Therriault, the former director of data science for the Democratic National Committee, said Hillary Clinton’s claim that she “inherited nothing” from the DNC is totally off base.
“DNC data folks: today’s accusations are f***ing bull****, and I hope you understand the good you did despite that nonsense,” Therriault tweeted Wednesday in a series of tweets that have since been deleted but were captured by other news outlets.
end quote
His statement that Hillary’s latest accusations are “f***ing bull****” really serves to underscore the theme of this thread, as gobs and mounds of that substance fly through the air in this country in the guise of actual, fact-based news.
According to that CBS NEWS article, Clinton’s comments on Wednesday resurfaced responses from her critics that Clinton still isn’t owning her loss to now-President Donald Trump.
Clinton said she wasn’t a “perfect” candidate, but that isn’t why she lost, blaming everything from the Democrats’ data operations to the media covering her email scandal like “Pearl Harbor.”
BOO HOO HOO, Hillary!
Hype to the right of us, hysteria to the left, and idiocy all around, in spades!
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Re: THE CONTINUING SAGA OF HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 6, 2017 AT 9:07 PM
Paul Plante says:
And Chas Cornweller, let us all take a moment in here to thank you profusely for bringing the name Barack Hussein Obama, our first Marxist United States president, a name I no longer think about since he has largely departed the public stage with the seven million dollars he is reported to have left the White House with, back into this discussion on our “democracy” being “threatened,” and our election supposedly having been “meddled" with and “interfered” with, as if that were not a common practice since Alexander Hamilton’s day, which would then take us back in time to just after the 2016 election, where Obama is quoted in an article entitled “Obama: ‘Russia Did Not Hack Our Elections’” by yournewswire, wherein we were informed as follows:
President Obama has been forced to admit that Russia did not hack the U.S. elections as is being widely reported in the mainstream media.
During an interview with the Daily Show’s Trevor Noah, Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process.
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WHOA, Chas Cornweller, what is up with that, pray tell?
Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process?
BIFF, BAM, BOOM, ZOUNDS and HOLY COW all wrapped up in one, Chas Cornweller!
If after the 2016 elections, none other than Barack Hussein Obama himself, whether or not he was born in this country, and whether or not he was a Muslim, or an atheist, or a Manichaean, or whatever, was denouncing the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process, then why are we still hearing in June of 2017 the now quite lame conspiracy theory that the Russians tampered with the American voting process?
Was Obama blowing smoke up our nether regions when he said that?
Or is it all these un-named “intelligence” sources today who are blowing the smoke?
Even Obama’s hireling Jimmy Clapper denied the interference in our election in an Associated Press entitled “US official says Russia undoubtedly meddled in US election” by RICHARD LARDNER and EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press on 5 January 2017, as follows:
Clapper on Thursday declined to discuss whether Russia’s interference was aimed at backing Trump win.
But he said Russia’s hacking “did not change any vote tallies.”
end quotes
If Russia’s hacking did not change any vote tallies in the 2016 presidential election, where Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote, then where on earth is the interference in our 2016 presidential election?
Getting back to Obama in 2016:
“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he admitted.
end quote
No evidence of vote tampering?
Hmmmmm.
Obama and Jimmy Clapper, who should know if anybody should know, seem to be on the same page there, but on a very different page than Hillary Clinton and all these so-called “intelligence” sources today who are still claiming the Russians interfered in the election to steal it away from our darling precious and special Hillary.
Rhetorically speaking here, if there was no evidence of vote tampering, then where is the evidence of interfering in our election?
If the Russians did actually interfere in our election, but did not engage in vote tampering, then they must have bought off the electoral college is the only other conclusion available, but since we haven’t heard about the electoral college having been bought off, we begin to wonder here just what the heck is going on with all these claims about our election having been meddled with and interfered with.
Getting back to the Obama article:
BB.com reports:
Obama downplayed the hack of a private email account of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, defending his administration for revealing in October that the Russian government was connected.
“None of this should be a big surprise,” Obama said, “Russia trying to influence our elections dates back to the Soviet Union.”
Obama dismissed the hack and the leaked emails as “not very interesting” and lacking “explosive” revelations.
He puzzled as to why it was an “obsession” by the news media despite the knowledge that the Russians were responsible.
“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said.
end quote
Fairly routine stuff, Chas Cornweller, back in 2016.
So why all the hype and hysteria today then?
What has changed?
Does anyone even have a clue.
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Paul Plante says:
And Chas Cornweller, let us all take a moment in here to thank you profusely for bringing the name Barack Hussein Obama, our first Marxist United States president, a name I no longer think about since he has largely departed the public stage with the seven million dollars he is reported to have left the White House with, back into this discussion on our “democracy” being “threatened,” and our election supposedly having been “meddled" with and “interfered” with, as if that were not a common practice since Alexander Hamilton’s day, which would then take us back in time to just after the 2016 election, where Obama is quoted in an article entitled “Obama: ‘Russia Did Not Hack Our Elections’” by yournewswire, wherein we were informed as follows:
President Obama has been forced to admit that Russia did not hack the U.S. elections as is being widely reported in the mainstream media.
During an interview with the Daily Show’s Trevor Noah, Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process.
end quotes
WHOA, Chas Cornweller, what is up with that, pray tell?
Barack Obama denounced the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process?
BIFF, BAM, BOOM, ZOUNDS and HOLY COW all wrapped up in one, Chas Cornweller!
If after the 2016 elections, none other than Barack Hussein Obama himself, whether or not he was born in this country, and whether or not he was a Muslim, or an atheist, or a Manichaean, or whatever, was denouncing the conspiracy theory that Russians tampered with the American voting process, then why are we still hearing in June of 2017 the now quite lame conspiracy theory that the Russians tampered with the American voting process?
Was Obama blowing smoke up our nether regions when he said that?
Or is it all these un-named “intelligence” sources today who are blowing the smoke?
Even Obama’s hireling Jimmy Clapper denied the interference in our election in an Associated Press entitled “US official says Russia undoubtedly meddled in US election” by RICHARD LARDNER and EILEEN SULLIVAN, Associated Press on 5 January 2017, as follows:
Clapper on Thursday declined to discuss whether Russia’s interference was aimed at backing Trump win.
But he said Russia’s hacking “did not change any vote tallies.”
end quotes
If Russia’s hacking did not change any vote tallies in the 2016 presidential election, where Hillary Clinton did win the popular vote, then where on earth is the interference in our 2016 presidential election?
Getting back to Obama in 2016:
“We were frankly more concerned in the run up to the election to the possibilities of vote tampering, which we did not see evidence of,” he admitted.
end quote
No evidence of vote tampering?
Hmmmmm.
Obama and Jimmy Clapper, who should know if anybody should know, seem to be on the same page there, but on a very different page than Hillary Clinton and all these so-called “intelligence” sources today who are still claiming the Russians interfered in the election to steal it away from our darling precious and special Hillary.
Rhetorically speaking here, if there was no evidence of vote tampering, then where is the evidence of interfering in our election?
If the Russians did actually interfere in our election, but did not engage in vote tampering, then they must have bought off the electoral college is the only other conclusion available, but since we haven’t heard about the electoral college having been bought off, we begin to wonder here just what the heck is going on with all these claims about our election having been meddled with and interfered with.
Getting back to the Obama article:
BB.com reports:
Obama downplayed the hack of a private email account of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta, defending his administration for revealing in October that the Russian government was connected.
“None of this should be a big surprise,” Obama said, “Russia trying to influence our elections dates back to the Soviet Union.”
Obama dismissed the hack and the leaked emails as “not very interesting” and lacking “explosive” revelations.
He puzzled as to why it was an “obsession” by the news media despite the knowledge that the Russians were responsible.
“What’s happened to our political system where some emails that were hacked and released ended up being the overwhelming story, and the constant source of coverage – breathless coverage – that was depicted as somehow damning in all sorts of ways when the truth of the matter was it was fairly routine stuff?” he said.
end quote
Fairly routine stuff, Chas Cornweller, back in 2016.
So why all the hype and hysteria today then?
What has changed?
Does anyone even have a clue.
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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR JUNE 7, 2017 AT 6:26 PM
Paul Plante says:
And Chas Cornweller, staying with you for the moment because you have given us so much to think about and consider with your posts above here, you ask, perhaps rhetorically, “(W)here is the indignation aimed at Russia and Putin himself,” to which question I must respond, why would any sane and rational person in this country waste even a miniscule particle of emotional energy having or feeling any indignation towards either?
The common meaning of “indignation” is “anger or annoyance provoked by what is perceived as unfair treatment.”
Where is the “unfair treatment” here that should have us feeling either anger, or annoyance, or both, at either Putin or Russia?
Do you honestly feel that Putin and/or Russia have treated you unfairly?
Do you perceive that somehow, Putin and/or Russia have treated the United States of America unfairly?
Or the American people?
To which I would have to respond, what duty of fair treatment do Putin and Russia owe you, the United States of America, or the American people?
And if such a duty is owed, from whence does that duty of fair treatment derive from?
International law, perhaps?
If so, does that mean the United States of America or you, or the American people, have a reciprocal duty to treat Russia and Putin fairly?
And if we have such a reciprocal duty, do you think we treat Putin and Russia fairly?
Or are we, because we are so special and exceptional, being the world’s only superpower, as well as the source of all that is good and holy in the world, exempt from us having to treat either Putin or Russia fairly, because Russia is a third-world country, which makes Putin the leader of a third-world nation?
But if Russia is a third-world country, why are its people and leader so much smarter than our leaders and our people, to the point of where the Russians can manipulate the American people to make the American people do their bidding, as if the American people, with the exclusion of myself, are nothing more than Russian puppets?
As to indignation being felt down here on the East Shore, a lot of it seems to be directed at Wayne Creed for allowing someone not from here to post in the CCM, and a bunch more is directed at me because I still post in Old English, using actual words in complete sentences to form paragraphs to express ideas, instead of limiting myself to bursts of less than 140 characters using the meaningless gibberish of Modern American that the TWEETERS of TWITTER use to convey their ideas on a host of subjects to each other and the candid world, so that with so much indignation aimed at Wayne Creed and myself, there does not seem to be any left over for either Russia or Putin.
And all of that aside, Chas Cornweller, because this is America, the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, where people are still free to be indignant at whatever it pleases them to be indignant at, why should we be indignant at Russia and Putin, neither of whom would likely give a damn, if they even knew, when we have so much in this country right here to be indignant at?
I, for example, am indignant at the fact that because of gross negligence and depraved indifference and callous disregard and denial of honest services by Democrat Young Andy Cuomo’s New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, more aptly known as the “department of environmental degradation,” or the “look the other way” crowd, and Young Andy’s Department of Health, a misnomer if there ever was one, and the corrupt Rensselaer County department of health, and yes, Sonia Sotomayor, Chas Cornweller, who has put the federal government stamp of approval on the State of New York policy of retaliating against those trying to challenge endemic corruption in this state by using fraudulently issued involuntary commitment orders to have those people locked away in secure psychiatric facilities, or GULAGS, as if this were in fact Stalinist Russia, that children in Hoosick Falls, New York were drinking water contaminated with PFOA, a carcinogen.
That is a whole lot higher up on my list of things to be indignant about than either Russia or Putin.
And what about the incompetence and corruption of our own national government in this country, Chas Cornweller?
Why shouldn’t we be more indignant about that than we are about Putin, who is a non-entity to me, and Russia?
With respect to feeling some indignation right here at home, as opposed to thousands of miles away and across an ocean in Russia, just yesterday, 6 June 2017, the venerable NEW YORK TIMES had an article entitled “Intelligence Contractor Is Charged in First Leak Case Under Trump” by CHARLIE SAVAGE, wherein was stated as follows:
WASHINGTON — An intelligence contractor was charged with sending a classified report about Russia’s interference in the 2016 election to the news media, the Justice Department announced Monday, the first criminal leak case under President Trump.
end quotes
An “intelligence contractor,” Chas Cornweller!
Because the national government in this country has no intelligence of its own, being bereft as it is of intellect, it has to go out into the marketplace to buy some, and isn’t that something a sane and rational people should be indignant about?
Getting back to the NY Times, and who the MORON-O-CRATIC national government has to buy its intelligence from, not being possessed of any of its own, we have:
The Justice Department announced the case against the contractor, Reality Leigh Winner, 25, about an hour after the national-security news outlet The Intercept published the apparent document, a May 5 intelligence report from the National Security Agency.
An accompanying F.B.I. affidavit said she has worked for Pluribus International Corporation at a government facility in Georgia since Feb. 13.
end quote
Pluribus International Corporation, Chas Cornweller?
Do you have any idea whatsoever who or what that company might be, and why it is that the MORON-O-CRACY is buying its intelligence from them?
Do you have any idea where Pluribus International Corporation might be getting its intelligence from that it then sells to the MORON-O-CRACY in the Ten Miles Square of Washington, D.C.?
How trustworthy are they?
And silly me, what was I thinking, of course you don’t know that answer, and truthfully, Chas Cornweller, neither do I.
So, why then should we trust a word they say?
And getting back to indignation and the NY Times, we have:
In a statement, the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, praised the operation.
“Releasing classified material without authorization threatens our nation’s security and undermines public faith in government,” he said.
“People who are trusted with classified information and pledge to protect it must be held accountable when they violate that obligation.”
end quotes
What undermines public faith in government in this country is the fact that the government is untruthful and untrustworthy and covfefe incompetent.
As to the “classified information,” which was classified while the Marxist Hussein Obama was still in the white house, the NY Times tells us as follows:
The report described two cyberattacks by Russia’s military intelligence unit, the G.R.U. — one in August against a company that sells voter registration-related software and another, a few days before the election, against 122 local election officials.
end quotes
And that, Chas Cornweller, raises the very important question of why Obama was trying to cover that up by classifying it.
What was Obama trying to hide, do you think?
The fact that the national government under his administration was too incompetent to keep this nation safe from the Russians?
If so, then why should we be indignant at the Russians for being superior to our own government, which isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit?
Wouldn’t our indignation be better placed with our own incompetent national government rather than wasting it on Putin and Russia?
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Paul Plante says:
And Chas Cornweller, staying with you for the moment because you have given us so much to think about and consider with your posts above here, you ask, perhaps rhetorically, “(W)here is the indignation aimed at Russia and Putin himself,” to which question I must respond, why would any sane and rational person in this country waste even a miniscule particle of emotional energy having or feeling any indignation towards either?
The common meaning of “indignation” is “anger or annoyance provoked by what is perceived as unfair treatment.”
Where is the “unfair treatment” here that should have us feeling either anger, or annoyance, or both, at either Putin or Russia?
Do you honestly feel that Putin and/or Russia have treated you unfairly?
Do you perceive that somehow, Putin and/or Russia have treated the United States of America unfairly?
Or the American people?
To which I would have to respond, what duty of fair treatment do Putin and Russia owe you, the United States of America, or the American people?
And if such a duty is owed, from whence does that duty of fair treatment derive from?
International law, perhaps?
If so, does that mean the United States of America or you, or the American people, have a reciprocal duty to treat Russia and Putin fairly?
And if we have such a reciprocal duty, do you think we treat Putin and Russia fairly?
Or are we, because we are so special and exceptional, being the world’s only superpower, as well as the source of all that is good and holy in the world, exempt from us having to treat either Putin or Russia fairly, because Russia is a third-world country, which makes Putin the leader of a third-world nation?
But if Russia is a third-world country, why are its people and leader so much smarter than our leaders and our people, to the point of where the Russians can manipulate the American people to make the American people do their bidding, as if the American people, with the exclusion of myself, are nothing more than Russian puppets?
As to indignation being felt down here on the East Shore, a lot of it seems to be directed at Wayne Creed for allowing someone not from here to post in the CCM, and a bunch more is directed at me because I still post in Old English, using actual words in complete sentences to form paragraphs to express ideas, instead of limiting myself to bursts of less than 140 characters using the meaningless gibberish of Modern American that the TWEETERS of TWITTER use to convey their ideas on a host of subjects to each other and the candid world, so that with so much indignation aimed at Wayne Creed and myself, there does not seem to be any left over for either Russia or Putin.
And all of that aside, Chas Cornweller, because this is America, the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, where people are still free to be indignant at whatever it pleases them to be indignant at, why should we be indignant at Russia and Putin, neither of whom would likely give a damn, if they even knew, when we have so much in this country right here to be indignant at?
I, for example, am indignant at the fact that because of gross negligence and depraved indifference and callous disregard and denial of honest services by Democrat Young Andy Cuomo’s New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, more aptly known as the “department of environmental degradation,” or the “look the other way” crowd, and Young Andy’s Department of Health, a misnomer if there ever was one, and the corrupt Rensselaer County department of health, and yes, Sonia Sotomayor, Chas Cornweller, who has put the federal government stamp of approval on the State of New York policy of retaliating against those trying to challenge endemic corruption in this state by using fraudulently issued involuntary commitment orders to have those people locked away in secure psychiatric facilities, or GULAGS, as if this were in fact Stalinist Russia, that children in Hoosick Falls, New York were drinking water contaminated with PFOA, a carcinogen.
That is a whole lot higher up on my list of things to be indignant about than either Russia or Putin.
And what about the incompetence and corruption of our own national government in this country, Chas Cornweller?
Why shouldn’t we be more indignant about that than we are about Putin, who is a non-entity to me, and Russia?
With respect to feeling some indignation right here at home, as opposed to thousands of miles away and across an ocean in Russia, just yesterday, 6 June 2017, the venerable NEW YORK TIMES had an article entitled “Intelligence Contractor Is Charged in First Leak Case Under Trump” by CHARLIE SAVAGE, wherein was stated as follows:
WASHINGTON — An intelligence contractor was charged with sending a classified report about Russia’s interference in the 2016 election to the news media, the Justice Department announced Monday, the first criminal leak case under President Trump.
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An “intelligence contractor,” Chas Cornweller!
Because the national government in this country has no intelligence of its own, being bereft as it is of intellect, it has to go out into the marketplace to buy some, and isn’t that something a sane and rational people should be indignant about?
Getting back to the NY Times, and who the MORON-O-CRATIC national government has to buy its intelligence from, not being possessed of any of its own, we have:
The Justice Department announced the case against the contractor, Reality Leigh Winner, 25, about an hour after the national-security news outlet The Intercept published the apparent document, a May 5 intelligence report from the National Security Agency.
An accompanying F.B.I. affidavit said she has worked for Pluribus International Corporation at a government facility in Georgia since Feb. 13.
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Pluribus International Corporation, Chas Cornweller?
Do you have any idea whatsoever who or what that company might be, and why it is that the MORON-O-CRACY is buying its intelligence from them?
Do you have any idea where Pluribus International Corporation might be getting its intelligence from that it then sells to the MORON-O-CRACY in the Ten Miles Square of Washington, D.C.?
How trustworthy are they?
And silly me, what was I thinking, of course you don’t know that answer, and truthfully, Chas Cornweller, neither do I.
So, why then should we trust a word they say?
And getting back to indignation and the NY Times, we have:
In a statement, the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, praised the operation.
“Releasing classified material without authorization threatens our nation’s security and undermines public faith in government,” he said.
“People who are trusted with classified information and pledge to protect it must be held accountable when they violate that obligation.”
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What undermines public faith in government in this country is the fact that the government is untruthful and untrustworthy and covfefe incompetent.
As to the “classified information,” which was classified while the Marxist Hussein Obama was still in the white house, the NY Times tells us as follows:
The report described two cyberattacks by Russia’s military intelligence unit, the G.R.U. — one in August against a company that sells voter registration-related software and another, a few days before the election, against 122 local election officials.
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And that, Chas Cornweller, raises the very important question of why Obama was trying to cover that up by classifying it.
What was Obama trying to hide, do you think?
The fact that the national government under his administration was too incompetent to keep this nation safe from the Russians?
If so, then why should we be indignant at the Russians for being superior to our own government, which isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit?
Wouldn’t our indignation be better placed with our own incompetent national government rather than wasting it on Putin and Russia?
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