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ON GREEN HYDROGEN

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR OCTOBER 15, 2023

Op-Ed: On Green Hydrogen


The following Op-Ed was written and submitted by Paul Plante.

Yes, people, “green” hydrogen!

While we all thought that hydrogen was actually a colorless gas, in fact we were wrong, because “green” hydrogen is actually green, not colorless, and Joe Biden is betting all of our futures on “green” hydrogen as our savior, which is to say, Joe Biden is not only going to fight the CLIMATE CRISIS with “green” hydrogen, he is going to put the beat-down on it, and give it a real good ass-whupping with “green” hydrogen that will make it holler and call “uncle,” which will mean the CLIMATE CRISIS, which never existed in the first place, except in Joe Biden’s fertile imagination, where all kinds of boogie-men roam freely, is gone for good and we can then all rest easy and be than be thankful that God in his, hers, theirs or its wisdom gave us Joe Biden as our savior!

And how do I know this?

Well, for a start, if we go back to February 15, 2022, we have the “Fact Sheet: Biden-⁠Harris Administration Advances Cleaner Industrial Sector to Reduce Emissions and Reinvigorate American Manufacturing,” where the Biden-Harris Administration informs us as follows:

Today, the Biden-Harris Administration is announcing new actions across agencies to support American leadership on clean manufacturing — including low-carbon production of the steel and aluminum we need for electric vehicles, wind turbines, and solar panels, and the clean concrete we need to upgrade our transportation infrastructure.

These actions will create more good-paying jobs and follow on a historic comeback for American factories, with 367,000 manufacturing jobs added during President Biden’s first year in office, the most in nearly 30 years.

Further strengthening our industrial base will revitalize local economies, lower prices for consumers, provide more pathways to the middle class through union jobs, and boost American competitiveness in global markets.

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Sounds great, doesn’t it, people?

Joe Biden is going the Make America Great Again, and my goodness, people, seriously, isn’t it time somebody did that?

So, under the Joe Biden and Karmela Harris Administration, we are going to have clean manufacturing, instead of dirty manufacturing like it was under the previous administration, and we are going to have low-carbon production of the steel and aluminum we need for electric vehicles, wind turbines, and solar panels, and on top of all that neat stuff, we are going to have clean concrete, as well, which we need to upgrade our transportation infrastructure, because let’s face it, people, who wants dirty concrete?

But where does “green” hydrogen fit into that picture?

Going back to the February 15, 2022 “Fact Sheet,” we have as follows on that subject:

The Department of Energy is launching major clean hydrogen initiatives of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law: $8 billion for Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs that will create jobs to expand use of clean hydrogen in the industrial sector and beyond; $1 billion for a Clean Hydrogen Electrolysis Program to reduce costs of hydrogen produced from clean electricity; and $500 million for Clean Hydrogen Manufacturing and Recycling Initiatives to support equipment manufacturing and strong domestic supply chains.

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Yes, people, lots more “clean” stuff coming our way from Joe Biden and Karmela Harris, which is cause for a major celebration all across America to show Joe and Karmela how much we love and adore them for giving us all this clean stuff, as opposed to the dirty stuff the previous administration was giving us.

So what then, is “green” or clean hydrogen as opposed to any and all other types or kinds of hydrogen that may exist out there?

According to one source, “green” hydrogen, also called renewable hydrogen, is obtained by electrolysis of water, and it is said that the most crucial thing is that this process is powered entirely by renewable energy, so it generates no polluting emissions into the atmosphere and is the cleanest and most sustainable hydrogen.

And there we are back to that magic word “clean!”

But if “green” hydrogen is obtained by electrolysis of water, doesn’t that mean that to make it, we have to sacrifice our water resources?

Of course, there is no information on that subject from either Joe Biden or Karmela Harris, probably because neither of them ever gave it a moment’s thought, just as they did not give this “green” hydrogen scheme any thought, either, a point we shall be getting to shortly in here.

But staying with this concept of “green” hydrogen made from water for the moment, we have more, as follows, to wit:

Although it is 100% sustainable and versatile, green hydrogen is expensive to produce due to the cost of energy from the renewable sources that are key to generating green hydrogen through electrolysis.

It requires more energy than other fuels to produce any kind of hydrogen, green in particular.

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And that thought takes us to what engineers like myself call an “energy budget,” another thing Joe Biden, a career hack politician who has never worked a real job in his life, and Karmela Harris, another career hack politician, have given absolutely no thought whatsoever to, which brings us to this, to wit:

Hydrogen is a highly inflammable substance and explosive in nature; it cannot be easily transported from one place to another and it can be generated by the hydrolysis of water but it is a very expensive process.

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That, people, is an expression of a reality that try as he might, Joe Biden cannot simply wish away, especially that part about hydrogen cannot be easily transported from one place to another.

It is my intent, by referring to an excellent engineering analysis on the subject titled “Energy and the Hydrogen Economy” by Ulf Bossel, who studied Mechanical Engineering in Darmstadt (Germany) and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, where he received his Diploma Degree (fluid mechanics, thermodynamics) in 1961, and after a short work period at BBC, he continued his graduate education at the University of California at Berkeley, receiving his Ph.D. degree in 1968 for experimental research in the area of space aerodynamics, and after two years as Assistant Professor at Syracuse University he returned to Germany to lead the free molecular flow research group at the DLR in Göttingen, leaving that field for solar energy in 1976, where he was founder and first president of the German Solar Energy Society, and started his own R&D consulting firm for renewable energy technologies, and in 1986, BBC asked him to join their new technology group in Switzerland where he became involved in fuel cells in 1987 and later director of ABB’s fuel cell development efforts worldwide; and Baldur Eliasson, who studied Electrical Engineering and Astronomy at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, where he received his doctorate in 1966 on a theoretical study of microwave propagation, and then he worked for three years as radio astronomer at the California Institute of Technology at Pasadena before joining the newly founded Brown Boveri (later ABB) Research Center in Switzerland in 1969, where he is in charge of ABB’s Energy and Global Change Program worldwide and reports directly to ABB’s Chief Technology Officer, while representing ABB in a number of international programs, where, for example, he is Vice Chairman of the “R&D Program on Greenhouse Gas Mitigation Technologies” of the International Energy Agency and has received many international awards for his contributions to environmental sustainability, where we find in Section 8.1 The Limits of a Pure Hydrogen Economy, as follows:

The results of this analysis indicate the weakness of a “Pure-Hydrogen-Only Economy” as depicted in Figure 14.

All difficulties with the pure Hydrogen Economy appear to be directly related to the nature of hydrogen.

Most of the problems cannot be solved by additional research and development.

We have to accept that hydrogen is the lightest of all gases and, as a consequence, that its physical properties do not fully match the requirements of the energy market.

Production, packaging, storage, transfer and delivery of the gas, in essence all key component of an economy, are so energy consuming that alternatives should and will be considered.

Mankind cannot afford to waste energy for idealistic goals, but economy will look for practical solutions and select the most energy-saving procedures.

The “Pure-Hydrogen-Only Solution” may never become reality.

The degree of energy waste certainly depends on the chosen path.

Hydrogen generated from rooftop solar electricity and stored at low pressure in stationary tanks may be a viable solution for private buildings.

On the other hand, hydrogen generated in the Sahara desert, pumped to the Mediterranean Sea through pipelines, then liquefied for sea transport, docked in London and locally distributed by trucks may not provide an acceptable energy solution at all.

Too much energy is lost in the process to justify the scheme.

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So who is right?

The hack politicians pandering to the “GREENIES?”

Or the engineers?

Stay tuned!

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR OCTOBER 15, 2023 AT 6:22 PM

Paul R Plante, NYSPE says:

This thread, courtesy of the Cape Charles Mirror, in one of a series of articles in the Cape Charles Mirror going back to September 8, 2019, and a story titled “The Great Climate Hoax” http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/the-gr ... mate-hoax/ , where we were informed, as follows:

CNN and the field of Democratic Candidates proved once again that we are indeed living in clown world.

For seven hours, the brainy individuals engaged in a forum discussing climate change and the coming end of the world.

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Yes, people, the end of the world!

But that was September 8, 2019, FOUR (4) years ago, now, and still we wait, sitting on the very edge of our seats, spurred on by CLIMATE CRISIS HYSTERIA stoked up by the dictatorial Joe Biden regime, watching out our windows for the end of the world to come, which in a way makes us special, because no other generation before ours has actually gotten to see and experience the end of the world.

EXCEPT, the world is not ending, at all, it is still carrying on, which takes us back FOUR LONG AND TEDIOUS YEARS to September 8, 2019, and the conclusion of that CCM article referenced above, to wit:

So, stop listening to these people.

As we speak, California is planning to add climate change fear to the school curriculum.

We are raising a generation of kids who are living in fear, like the poor girl from Holland that says every day she wakes up afraid for her future, so much so that she had to sail to New York.

All of this is based on theory, and not empirical evidence, or as some call it, science.

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The “little girl” referred to there, of course, is little Greta Thunberg who stars in a video linked to in that article where little Greta, the driving force behind this CLIMATE CRISIS HYSTERIA that has swept all across America, reducing the minds of a majority of the American people to a sort of unthinking mush, due to an overload of fear, tells us, as follows:

“Our house is on fire.”

“I’m here to say, our house is on fire,”

“According to the IPPC, we are less than 12 years away from being able to undo our mistakes.”

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That was in 2019, people, that we only had 12 years left to live, and four of them are now gone, which leaves just eight years left before the earth becomes a raging fireball consuming all and everything and leaving mothing left but a charred wasteland, which takes us back to little Greta, to wit:

“On climate change, we have to acknowledge that we have failed!”

“Solving the CLIMATE CRISIS is the most complex challenge that homo sapiens have ever faced.”

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And there, people, is the basis of Joe Biden’s specious claim that we have a CLIMATE CRISIS – he heard it from little Greta Thunberg, who hasn’t the slightest idea as to what she is talking about, but is listened to and taken seriously regardless by the caitiff media, which thinks she is just the cutest thing ever, cuddly like a little kitten, and because the caitiff media takes her seriously, then so does Joe Biden, which takes us back to little Greta, to wit:

“The main solution is so simple that even a small child can understand it.”

“We have to stop the emissions of greenhouse gases!”

“And either we do that, or we don’t!’

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And for the record here, people, since we are going to be talking about burning hydrogen as Joe Biden’s solution to this problem, the combustion product of which is water vapor, according to NASA, water vapor is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas, being responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat, and it just so happens that it is those greenhouse gases little Greta and Joe Biden want to stop the emissions of, that keep our planet livable, which takes us back to this hysterical raving from little Greta in 2019, to wit:.

“Either we avoid setting off that irreversible chain reaction beyond human control, or we don’t!”

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Irreversible chain reaction?

My goodness, do tell, Greta!

And here is little Greta’s solution, to wit:

“We must change almost everything in our current society.”

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Right, right, Greta, tell you what, we’ll get right on it for you, changing everything in our current society, just so you can feel good about yourself and all warm and squishy inside because you single-handedly saved the earth from people like us, which takes us back to for Greta, given she was on a roll that day with her scripted performance, to wit:

“Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope.”

“But I don’t want your hope.”

“I don’t want you to be hopeful!”

“I WANT YOU TO PANIC!”

“I want you to feel the fear I feel every day!”

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And on that command from this little girl with some serious psychological problems attributed to damn poor parenting linked to improper potty training, four years ago in 2019, as if Pavlovian dogs, the majority of the American people heard her command, and obeyed her, and went into the panic mode she demanded of them, so that they are now easily manipulated by Joe Biden, who is milking this crisis created by little Greta Thunberg with a looting of our treasury to the tune of $TRILLIONS of taxpayer dollars that Joe is now using to reward and enrichen some of the richest and most powerful corporations in America, as well as to buy this next presidential election!

Think I’m kidding, people?

Not a joke!

And for proof of that assertion, let us go to a Reuters article titled “Biden administration to announce $7 billion in hydrogen hub grants Friday – sources” by Jarrett Renshaw and Valerie Volcovici on October 10, 2023, where we have as follows:

WASHINGTON, Oct 10 (Reuters) – The Biden administration is expected to announce on Friday the winners of $7 billion in federal grants to build out regional hydrogen hubs, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

The announcement caps months of intense political jockeying among states from California to Pennsylvania for their share of the $7 billion in federal dollars to set the U.S. on a path to produce 50 million metric tons of clean hydrogen fuel by 2050.

The competitive process granted the White House unusual power to play kingmaker and reward allies in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan that could play a major role in whether President Joe Biden is re-elected in 2024.

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And with all that stated, it’s time to pause for station identification, but don’t change that dial, for we will soon be right back.

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR OCTOBER 16, 2023 AT 6:41 PM

Paul R Plante, NYSPE says:

Going back four years to September 8, 2019, and the Cape Charles Mirror story titled “The Great Climate Hoax,” we are confronted with this set of relevant statements, to wit:

CNN and the field of Democratic Candidates proved once again that we are indeed living in clown world.

For seven hours, the brainy individuals engaged in a forum discussing climate change and the coming end of the world.

All of this is based on theory, and not empirical evidence, or as some call it, science.

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Empirical evidence, and this is important to understand, nor does it require anything more than a high school education to understand, is defined as “the information obtained through observation and documentation of certain behavior and patterns or through an experiment,” with empirical evidence being a quintessential part of the scientific method of research.

Now with respect to Joe Biden’s INSANE GREEN DREAM and its massive price tag which is to be paid for out of the pockets and on the backs of the common American citizen, where along with windmills and solar panels, to save America in his warped and twisted mind, Joe is going to be producing massive amounts of hydrogen to fuel American industry, again in Joe’s mind, what we already know, and have known for many, many years now from empirical evidence is that first of all, hydrogen is lightest of all gases and, as a consequence, its physical properties do not fully match the requirements of the energy market, for reasons we shall explore and document, using the empirical evidence that exists as our guide.

Secondly, we know, this again from empirical evidence, that production, packaging, storage, transfer and delivery of hydrogen, with those being all key components of an energy economy, are so energy consuming that to deliver one horsepower’s worth of energy, many more horsepower are required to produce that one horsepower’s worth, which makes it not at all an energy efficient process, which in turn will make it a costly process to maintain and a fuel to use.

Thirdly, we know (HINT: think Hindenburg Disaster – Real Footage (1937) | British Pathé, “OH, THE HUMANITY” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fURATK5Yt30 ) that hydrogen is a highly inflammable substance and explosive in nature that cannot be easily transported from one place to another.

And we also know, this from basic high school chemistry, that the combustion product of burning hydrogen to fuel our economy, as Joe Biden wants to do by producing 50 MILLION METRIC TONS of GREEN hydrogen fuel by 2050, is water, or H2O!

And we know from NASA that water vapor, NOT CO2, is Earth’s most abundant greenhouse gas as well as the most important greenhouse gas, being responsible for about half of Earth’s greenhouse effect — the process that occurs when gases in Earth’s atmosphere trap the Sun’s heat, while we also know from the Encyclopædia Britannica that water vapor is the most potent of the greenhouse gases in Earth’s atmosphere, so that water vapor is blocking more energy than carbon dioxide today.

We know from basic high school chemistry that to combust hydrogen as a fuel, each pair of hydrogen atoms (or each molecule of H2) will combine with one atom of Oxygen (or one half molecule of O2) to form one molecule of H2O, or water, so that on a weight basis, each pound of hydrogen to be combusted requires 7.94 pounds of Oxygen for complete combustion, which will result in the production of 8.94 pounds of water coming out the tailpipe or smokestack and into the environment in vapor form, which will add to the greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere to make global warming worse, not better.

And then we simply drop back in time to September 21, 2023, where we have the “FACT SHEET: Biden-⁠Harris Administration Announces New Actions to Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Combat the Climate Crisis,” where Joe and Karmela are telling us that they are taking new steps will catalyze action across the federal government to account for climate change impacts in budgeting, procurement, and other agency decisions, and save hardworking families money.

That bit about saving hardworking families money, of course, is pure Biden BULL****, because he is making things more expensive, like the $190 I just had to pay for the battery I just bought for my 2012 Toyota pick-up.

But for the purposes of this discussion, the key words in that title are these, to wit: "New Actions to Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Combat the Climate Crisis!”

Which brings us to the idiocy and hypocrisy here because this new action by Joe and Karmela, this plan to burn hydrogen as a fuel to make steel and aluminum and concrete, not to mention powering vehicles, is going to add to the greenhouse gases, not reduce them, which will contribute to Joe’s climate crisis, not combat it.

And once again, it is time for station identification, and when we come back it will be with this thought in mind, as Joe tells us his plan will save hardworking families money, to wit:

The production of hydrogen is very energy intensive, even with mature technology, and hydrogen-based steel is about twice as expensive as coal-based steel as a result.

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OCTOBER 20, 2023 AT 1:56 PM

Paul R Plante, NYSPE says:

And with the thought in mind, based on indisputable empirical scientific evidence, and this has been known for many years now, not being anything new, that the production of hydrogen is very energy intensive, even with mature technology, so that hydrogen-based steel is about twice as expensive as coal-based steel as a result, let's drop back to October 13, 2023, and the White House PROPAGANDA hand-out titled "Biden-⁠Harris Administration Announces Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs to Drive Clean Manufacturing and Jobs" where we learn that "investing in American Infrastructure and Manufacturing is a key part of Bidenomics and the President’s Investing in America agenda."

Ah, yes, people, BIDE-O-NOMICS ( http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/op-ed- ... s/#respond )!

BIDE-O-NOMICS, Joe's MASSIVE BORROW-AND-SPEND CORPORATE WELFARE PROGRAM to be paid for by the American taxpayers, of course, is a key component of BIDE-O-NISM, which is Joe Biden's political platform based on an Americanized-version of MARXISM, and with BIDE-O-NOMICS as his fiscal weapon of choice, Joe is going to restore the American Dream by building back better to make America great again, all while fighting Donald Trump, the Republicans, the Russians, Putin, and the Chinese for the soul of America!

Going back to the PROPAGANDA SPEW, we have more, as follows, to wit:

Today, President Biden and Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm are announcing seven regional clean hydrogen hubs that were selected to receive $7 billion in Bipartisan Infrastructure Law funding to accelerate the domestic market for low-cost, clean hydrogen.

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For those not familiar with her, Biden “energy secretary” Jennifer Granholm is a Canadian-American lawyer, educator, author, political commentator, and politician with a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of California, Berkeley in 1984 and a Juris Doctor degree from Harvard Law School in 1987 who knows absolutely nothing whatsoever about energy, but notwithstanding, became Joe’s “energy secretary” because she is a proven party loyalist who was a member of the presidential transition team for Hussein Obama before he assumed office in 2009 and then she became host of “The War Room” with Jennifer Granholm, and in 2017, she was hired as a CNN political contributor, and more importantly, at least as far as Joe is concerned, because Joe made a campaign promise to select a team that “looks like America” and modernizes the predominantly male, white institution, she won the Miss San Carlos beauty pageant, and then as a young adult, she attempted to launch a Hollywood acting career but abandoned her efforts at age 21, and after that, in 1978, she appeared on The Dating Game, another top qualification to be a member of TEAM BIDEN (cue Bob Seger – Her Strut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C51c0vuLEng ) and of great importance to Joe, she held jobs as a tour guide at Universal Studios and in customer service at the Los Angeles Times and was the first female tour guide at Marine World Africa USA in Redwood City, piloting boats with 25 tourists aboard.

And now, she is handing out $7 billion in Bipartisan Infrastructure Law funding to accelerate the domestic market for low-cost, clean hydrogen, so how about that, people, for a real Damon Runyon-type American success story!

Going back to the PROPAGANDA, we have more, to wit:

Advancing clean hydrogen is essential to achieving the President’s vision of a strong clean energy economy that strengthens energy security, bolsters domestic manufacturing, creates healthier communities, and delivers new jobs and economic opportunities across the nation.

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And here, people, we really need to be asking ourselves this important question, given that according to a Vox article titled "Why Biden’s multibillion-dollar bet on hydrogen energy is such a big deal - Clean hydrogen can be a lot dirtier than it seems, especially when the fossil fuel industry gets involved" by Rebecca Leber on October 16, 2023, we are going to be on the hook for potentially over $100 billion in incentives that could boost the fossil fuel industry, to wit:

WITH HIS DEMONSTRATED RECORD OF BAD JUDGMENT AND OUTRIGHT FAILED POLICIES (think the southern border, for example) SHOULD WE AS A SANE AND RATIONAL PEOPLE PLACE ANY FAITH WHATSOEVER IN ANY "VISION" JOE BIDEN MIGHT HAVE ABOUT ANYTHING?

AND HOW HAVE WE SUDDENLY BECOME A NATION GOVERNED NOT BY LAWS, BUT BY THE "VISIONS" OF A SENILE, OLD MAN WHO HAS NEVER HELD A REAL JOB IN HIS LIFE, OR BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS, OR PRODUCED ANYTHING OF VALUE, HAVING NEVER BEEN ANYTHING OTHER THAN A HACK CAREER POLITICIAN FEEDING OFF THE TAXPAYERS LIKE A BOLL WEEVIL IN A COTTON PATCH OR A RAT IN A FARMER'S CORN CRIB, "VISIONS" LIKELY BROUGHT ON BY STOMACH GAS OR SEVERE CONSTIPATION?


All well and good, people, in a PROPAGANDA SPEW, to say that advancing clean hydrogen is essential to achieving the Joe Biden's "vision" of a strong clean energy economy that strengthens energy security, bolsters domestic manufacturing, creates healthier communities, and delivers new jobs and economic opportunities across the nation, but here in America, we are reality-based, and so we do what all good and loyal Americans should be doing, which is questioning every single word that we hear Joe Biden telling us, giving his propensity to do nothing but tell serial lies and tall tales, so we are going to be putting that vision to the test the caitiff main-stream and legacy media, including Vox, are failing utterly and miserably to do.

And when I say these INSANE GREEN HYDROGEN DREAMS of Joe Biden are nothing new, consider that in 1874, Jules Verne, a French science fiction writer, envisioned a similar hydrogen dream in his book "The Mysterious Island," while in the Vox article cited above, it is stated as follows:

Republican and Democratic politicians alike have dreamed for decades of using the most abundant element in the universe to someday power manufacturing, buildings, and even cars.

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Ah, yes, people, DREAMS!

Stay tuned, more to come!
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The Wall Street Journal

"Companies Clash Over Billions of Dollars in Hydrogen Tax Breaks"


Story by Amrith Ramkumar, Richard Rubin

23 OCTOBER 2023

WASHINGTON—Big energy producers are sparring over billions of dollars in subsidies from last year’s climate law, a fight that pits the Biden administration’s goals for economic growth against its efforts to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions.

The battle is over subsidies to produce clean hydrogen, a potential alternative to oil and natural gas in industries such as steelmaking and trucking where renewable energy and batteries alone aren’t adequate.

The administration is weighing how strictly to define what energy sources can be used to make clean hydrogen and still be eligible for some of the most valuable tax credits in the Inflation Reduction Act.


NextEra Energy, Constellation Energy and Plug Power say the subsidies should be widely available — even to companies that generate carbon emissions — to spur the growth of a hydrogen industry seen as crucial to limiting climate change in the long run.

The businesses and industry groups have made the argument in advertisements everywhere from the New York Times and digital media outlet Semafor to the streaming service Hulu.

They also have made their case in meetings with Biden administration officials, according to people familiar with the matter.

Labor unions such as the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers have sided with them.

Companies such as Air Products & Chemicals, meanwhile, say the money should go to businesses that use only renewable energy, which could mean slower development and fewer new jobs.

Environmental groups have made the same argument in newspaper ads; the groups also have appealed to administration officials, a person familiar with the meetings said.

The spat is the latest example of companies in sectors from electric cars to energy fighting over the technical details of clean-energy subsidies that could be worth $1 trillion over a decade.

“The hydrogen rules are make or break,” said Leah Stokes, an associate professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara, focused on energy, environment and climate, who advised Democrats on the climate law and is in favor of tight hydrogen tax-credit rules.

The administration missed an August deadline to write the hydrogen rules.

White House officials are considering a range of proposals, including rules that would get stricter over time, a senior administration official said.

Ashley Schapitl, a Treasury spokeswoman, said the agency is trying to make sure the rules strengthen U.S. energy security and address climate change.

The subsidies come atop $7 billion in recently announced federal grants from the 2021 infrastructure law for hydrogen megaprojects across the U.S. to kick-start the industry.

Today, nearly all hydrogen is made by heating natural gas.

The method is cheap, but it generates greenhouse-gas emissions.

Those can be lowered or eliminated by switching to machines powered by renewable energy that split water into hydrogen and oxygen.

The new tax credit gets more valuable as the production process generates less emissions.

The maximum amount for the cleanest hydrogen is $3 per kilogram, roughly enough to make green hydrogen cost competitive with hydrogen made from natural gas.

The heart of the current conflict is in whether companies planning to use fossil-fuel power from electricity grids to make hydrogen would have to buy equivalent renewable energy on an hourly basis or a looser annual standard.

Companies such as NextEra, Plug Power and BP say projects should count as green if they use fossil-fuel grid power but buy renewable-energy credits that match their annual usage.

Otherwise, they argue, hydrogen projects won’t be viable in much of the U.S., preventing the job and climate benefits the White House wants.

“If we don’t ever get to having hydrogen available for use, we’ll never solve any problems,” said Emily Fisher, an executive vice president at the Edison Electric Institute, a trade group for utilities.

Constellation, the largest U.S. nuclear-plant operator, is arguing for looser rules allowing existing clean-power projects to be used to make hydrogen.

Restrictive rules would halt the company’s plans to invest nearly $1 billion in nuclear-powered hydrogen, a spokesman said.

Constellation and others are part of the Fuel Cell & Hydrogen Energy Association, an industry group that has advertised against tight regulations.

Opponents — including Air Products, which has plans for green hydrogen facilities that run on new renewable power in states such as Texas — want stricter rules requiring new clean-energy developments and electricity-matching based on hourly demand.

Those rules would likely deny some competitors the tax credits.

The issue is splitting some of the White House’s usual allies.

Environmentalists have said in advertisements in outlets including the Washington Post that many energy producers are trying to hijack clean-energy rules to get credit for projects that would increase pollution.

“We cannot afford the hydrogen tax credit to serve as yet another subsidy for the fossil fuel industry,” a group of senators including Sheldon Whitehouse (D., R.I.), Jeff Merkley (D., Ore.) and Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) wrote last week to Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen.

A separate group of senators including Maria Cantwell (D., Wash.), Sherrod Brown (D., Ohio) and Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) — one of the main architects of the climate law — plans to argue for looser rules to spur the industry and allow more regions to have hydrogen projects, according to a draft of a separate letter to Yellen viewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Many analysts expect the government to start with relatively loose rules, then transition to tighter standards such as matching renewable-electricity usage hourly.

Europe has proposed starting hourly matching for its hydrogen rules in 2030.

The American Clean Power Association, an industry group, proposed applying a more relaxed standard to projects that begin construction before Jan. 1, 2029.

Opponents say such an approach would mean nearly all projects finished through the early 2030s would get the looser rules because of how long construction takes, risking an increase in emissions.

“If they get it wrong, it’s really big,” said Craig Segall, vice president of policy for environmental group Evergreen Action.

“It’s harder to make other [Inflation Reduction Act] errors that are worth 100 million tons of CO2 over time.”

Write to Amrith Ramkumar at amrith.ramkumar@wsj.com and Richard Rubin at richard.rubin@wsj.com

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