WILL THEY SUBMIT?

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 15, 2020 at 7:45 pm

Paul Plante says :

Part of what precipitated me to come back to this thread from 2017 was an e-mail forwarded to me from some crowd calling themselves VoteVets , which according to their website, was started in 2006 and backed by more than 700,000 veterans, military family members and their supporters, the mission of VoteVets.org is to use public issue campaigns to give a voice to veterans on matters of national security, veterans’ care, and every day issues that affect the lives of those who served, and their families, sent: Friday, June 12, 2020, subject: Our new ad pulls no punches, wherein was stated as follows:

Veteran — wanted to make sure you were the first to see our new ad in support of the work we’ve been doing to advocate for the Army to rename 10 bases across America named after traitorous Confederate generals.

It asks a simple question:

We’d never name bases after America’s enemies, like Osama bin Laden.

So why does Donald Trump so desperately want to keep the names of other racist enemies on our Army bases?

In just the first few hours since we’ve released this ad, our campaign to get the Army to do the right thing by renaming these bases has seen a massive surge of support across all of our channels.

And that ad only exists because of the financial contributions of grassroots supporters who chip in a few dollars when they can, to emails just like this one, in order to fuel the critical work we do together.

Clickhere to watch the latest ad from VoteVets, then chip in $5 or more so we can continue to create change for our community through more videos just like this one.

We are so grateful for all you do.

Thank you.

The team at VoteVets

VoteVets.org also recognizes veterans as a vital part of the fabric of our country and will work to protect veterans’ interests in their day-to-day lives.

While non-partisan, the group is the largest progressive organization of veterans in America.

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When I read that HORSE**** about “renaming 10 bases across America named after traitorous Confederate generals,” I immediately said to myself, having been stationed at Ft. Polk, pronounced Puke, and Ft. Benning, this is a crowd of ignorant, flaming A-HOLES, and the last thing I am going to do is to send them money to fuel their crusade, which is blatantly political as can be seen from this ridiculous statement, to wit:

“So why does Donald Trump so desperately want to keep the names of other racist enemies on our Army bases?”

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Now, first of all, this naming of OUR AMERICAN military bases has not one ******* thing to do with Donald Trump, and as a veteran, I greatly resent this crowd of fundraisers in the names of veterans trying to make it be so.

And what’s with this hog**** – “Other racist enemies?”

What the **** are they talking about with that “other racist enemies” bull****?

What enemies are they?

They’re all ******* dead – deceased, laid to rest, in their graves!

Ergo, they are enemies to NOBODY, and it is just plain ******* stupid to say otherwise, which doesn’t stop this crowd of ignorant fundraisers from saying so.

And naming those bases for dead Confederate generals in the South hardly is an honor for them to have to wake up each day to see the place swarming with not only federal soldiers, but SHUDDER SHUDDER, A KLUCKER’S WORST NIGHTMARE – COLORED FEDERAL SOLDIERS, 24/7/365, to be reminded day after day after day that the Confederacy lost the war to those federal troops on those bases named for dead Confederate generals.

As a soldier on those bases, I thought so, anyway.

And as an AMERICAN, I think that is racial justice.

As to Ft. Benning, and history, and you would think that if these were real, actual veterans, instead of fundraisers raising money in the name of veterans, that they would know this, it was where the 555th Parachute Company began its military life.

The significance of the Triple Nickel as the 555 was called, was that it was this nation’s FIRST all-black parachute infantry company which Army Chief of Staff General George C. Marshall constituted on 25 February 1943 as the 555th Parachute Infantry Company, and on 19 December 1943, Headquarters, Army Ground Forces, authorized the activation of the company as an all-black unit with black officers as well as black enlisted men, and the company was officially activated on 30 December 1943 at Fort Benning, Georgia.

Thus, that unit is part of the living history of the American military base known as Ft. Benning, and that is what military bases are remembered for, not the name of some dead Confederate general, but for the troops who passed through those gates before you got to there.

Now, here is where the liberals and progressives get lost, because to them, anti-military as they are, they do not know and cannot fathom what it must have meant to those first black paratroopers to be paratroopers, which to me, a combat infantryman, are the best of the best.

And these MORONS who want to erase the name of Ft. Benning from our history in a cheap political attack on Donald Trump in a presidential election year want to erase the history of those first black paratroopers, VOLUNTEERS, all, and as a real veteran, not a fundraiser posing as a veteran, I am standing up and saying LEAVE THE NAME OF FORT BENNING ALONE!

And while you are at it, pay some tribute to the original members of the ALL-BLACK TRIPLE NICKEL Parachute Infantry Company of the United States Army.

And leave the name of Fort Bragg alone, as well, because after it left Ft. Benning, in October 1945, the 555th Parachute Infantry Battalion was transferred to Fort Bragg, North Carolina, its home for the next two years and during this period the unit was attached to the elite 82d Airborne Division.

And thus those first black paratroopers are a part of the history of Ft. Bragg.

LEAVE OUR AMERICAN HISTORY ALONE!

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 16, 2020 at 10:44 am

Paul Plante says :

In considering this subject of re-naming our military bases, I always find it interesting in reading the Cape Charles Mirror how the use of words today, as in this VoteVets crowd of fundraisers in the name of veterans saying “(W)hile non-partisan, the group is the largest progressive organization of veterans in America,” takes us back to the archives of the Mirror, as in this case, back to July 24, 2016, and a thread entitled “On Alleged Progressivism In America in 2016,” http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/p ... n-america/ where in a post dated July 27, 2016 at 11:03 am, the following comments on the subject were made, to wit:

In the name of “progressivism,” which it most assuredly is not, if brought into power in this up-coming presidential election, the Democratic Party in the United States of America intends to impose on these United States of America a tyranny not seen in this land since the time of the tyranny of King George III back in 1776, a tyranny similar to that now on-going in Turkey under Erdogan where Turkish society is being “purged” of Gulenist elements.

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Four years later, as we read and follow the news, including the Washington Post story “Trump won’t rename Army posts that honor Confederates. Here’s why they’re named after traitors” by Alex Horton on June 11, 2020, we see that battle being played our before our eyes, to wit:

Calls on Twitter also intensified to rename Fort Benning after Sgt. 1st Class Alwyn Cashe, a black soldier and Georgia native whose actions in Iraq quickly became legend.

In 2005, his vehicle was destroyed by an improvised explosive device and consumed in flames.

Cashe entered the Bradley three times to rescue six soldiers while he himself was on fire.

He died of his injuries weeks later.

Cashe received the Silver Star for his heroism, although many say he deserved the Medal of Honor.

Renaming Fort Benning after him, advocates have said, would correct at least one injustice.

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As a combat veteran, and as an American citizen, I can only respond to that by saying what ******* BULL**** that is!

According to the lost-in-space Washington Post, which takes its lead and direction from TWITTER, since the dude was black, he really should have gotten the Medal of Honor, but since he was black, he only got the Silver Star, to the liberals and progressives, a sort of consolation prize, which is an INJUSTICE committed by a racist nation against a black man which now can only be rectified by naming an Army base after him.

You know, a quota system for the issuance of Army medals now, which takes us back in our own history once again to the TRIPLE NICKEL, the ALL-black 555th Parachute Infantry Regiment, and the Korean conflict, where one of its former officers, a black man named First Lieutenant Harry Sutton, died leading a rearguard action during the Hungnam evacuation and was decorated posthumously with the Silver Star https://www.koreanwar.org/html/29276/ko ... arl-sutton .

So, is that another “injustice,” does anyone think?

And if so, why shouldn’t Ft. Benning be named after him, instead?

He was a paratrooper who trained there, afterall.

But what am I talking about – this TWITTER crowd doesn’t even know Korea happened, nor do they give a flying **** about Harry Sutton.

As to other members of the Triple Nickel, in 1950, a large number of former 555th PIB members volunteered to form the all-black 2d Ranger Infantry Company (Airborne) and while the 2d Ranger Infantry Company was attached to the 187th Airborne Regimental Combat Team, it made the combat jump at Munsan-Ni in March 1951, the first combat jump ever made by a US Army Ranger unit.

So, why shouldn’t Ft. Benning be named after all of them?

But I am digressing here, so let’s go back to 2016 and the article of “progressivism,” where we have the roots of this present ideological struggle playing out before our eyes as the howling and yowling and screaming Democrat mobs burn down civilization in America in the name of “progressivism,” as follows:

In support of that assertion, all I need do is to refer us to page 14 of a document, a manifesto, really, with manifesto being a public declaration of policy and aims, especially one issued before an election by a political party or candidate, titled the 2016 Democratic Party Platform, July 21, 2016, As Approved by the Democratic Platform Committee July 8-9, 2016 – Orlando, FL, where we find these following words of importance to us all in this nation: Ending Systemic Racism.

Systemic refers to something that is spread throughout, system-wide, affecting a group or system, such as a society as a whole.

In other words, in the words of the Democrat Manifesto for 2016, American society is sick from one end to the other, so that it is now time for the Democrat Party to take the law into its own hands to purge the United States of America of this “systemic racism” the way Turkey is being purged of Gulenism.

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As I say in the above post, when it comes to commentary on “social issues” in America, the Cape Charles Mirror stands in the forefront, with the Washington Post coming in far behind, as it struggles mightily to find its head in its ***, so it can then try to yank it back out to see the light of day, which takes us back to 2016, to wit:

In that section of its manifesto, we are informed as follows:

Democrats will fight to end institutional and systemic racism in our society.

We will challenge and dismantle the structures that define lasting racial, economic, political, and social inequity.

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Dismantle the structures.

Focus your thoughts on that for a moment if you will, people, especially the word “dismantle.”

The Democrats, who according to Gallup polling in 2010 constituted just 31% of Americans, have determined that they have the right to dismantle OUR nation and re-structure it the way they want it to be for them.

More to the point, that 31% of Americans have made a broad-brush accusation with that unsupported claim of theirs that there is systemic racism all throughout this land.

Where is their evidence?

The answer is they don’t have any and they don’t need any.

It is how they “feel,” and for them, that is all that is needed, and that is good enough.

Based on their “feelings,” our nation has to be “dismantled” and then re-structured in their image, because they alone know what is good for the rest of us in this nation.

The Democrat Manifesto then continues as follows:

Democrats will promote racial justice through fair, just, and equitable governing of all public-serving institutions and in the formation of public policy.

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As stated above, this 31% of our population, based on how they “feel,” knows what is best for all the rest of us in this country, and so, they are going to impose their will on us, which is what tyranny is really all about – a small group with political power imposing its will through force on a majority.

Getting back to the 2016 Democrat Manifesto, we next have this:

We will push for a societal transformation to make it clear that black lives matter and that there is no place for racism in our country.

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ALL lives matter, and “societal transformation” is not “progressivism”; it is social engineering, plain and simple, indoctrination and coercion being its tools of change.

And that must be understood in light of this statement made in a political gathering in Philadelphia on April 7th of this year by Democrat presidential candidate Hillary Clinton:

“If someone has white skin, they are a racist because of Implicit Bias, and we need community programs here in America to cure them,”

In the name of “progressivism,” we are looking at something more akin to Stalinism in the Soviet Union where those deemed as dissidents were locked away in Gulags for re-education through hard labor.

Is this what you want for your children?

Is this the future the United States deserves?

Think about it, people, for a clock is ticking.

In closing, to me, this “progressivism” being put forth by Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Elizabeth Warren and the Democrat party is the same “progressivism” a cancer exhibits as it metastasizes through a human body, except their cancer will metastasize through the body politic in this nation instead, and bring chaos and disorder in its wake.

And that is as far from the true goals of “progressivism” as one can possibly get.

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 17, 2020 at 9:10 pm

Paul Plante says :

tokenny, what a terrible attitude you have about the abilities of the black folks, first denigrating the abilities of the original members of the ALL-BLACK TRIPLE NICKEL Parachute Infantry Company of the United States Army, which unit was attached to the elite 82d Airborne Division at Ft. Bragg, saying they were not good enough to serve with the white men, and then you come along and say the Tuskeegee airmen couldn’t fly because of the color of their skin, when in fact they most certainly could fly, as they proved at Salerno in Italy during WWII, to wit:

IL 2 Tuskegee Airmen 06 “P-40M Salerno Nazi Convoy Strike and Airfield Raid”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKe3WXBlzA

If they couldn’t fly because of the color of their skin, which in the light of history is an ignorant, uninformed opinion, how come there is a picture of them in their flight gear https://www.doi.gov/video/remembering-tuskegee-airmen at this U.S. Department of the Interior website entitled “Remembering the Tuskegee Airmen” wherein is said as follows:

As Black History Month comes to a close, we pause to remember the Tuskegee Airmen.

Breaking barriers and fighting Nazis, the proud pilots of the 99th Fighter Squadron earned the respect of their fellow pilots and wrote their names in the history books.

Their success helped pave the way of the desegregation of the military after World War II.

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Why do you denigrate them, tokenny, and deny them their abilities?

As to their flying skills, which you deny them because of their skin color, Military.com has vintage film of them flying here:

https://www.military.com/video/operatio ... 1077845001

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When Hillary Clinton said “(I)f someone has white skin, they are a racist because of Implicit Bias, and we need community programs here in America to cure them,” tokenny, she was talking about you!

As to military bases, tokenny, if you open this link, what you would see is what any troop reporting to Ft. Hood would see, and while they likely mean nothing to you, it is those patches you see that define Ft. Hood, not the name Fort Hood, which is pronounced as one word, not two:

https://taskandpurpose.com/history/u-s- ... ses-anyway

What is that first unit patch that you see there, tokenny?

First Cav, is it not?

That is what Ft. Hood would be to a soldier like me, not some base named after some dead Confederate nobody knows about or cares about except for the liberal progressive Democrats who know nothing about military bases because they hate the military and those who serve and those who are veterans, but the home of the illustrious First Cavalry Division, a unit with a considerable history of its own as a part of the United States Army, not the Army of the Confederacy.

If you click on this link, tokenny Boot Camp Fort Polk: Hello Viet Nam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHabwlYQGVM you’ll see what Ft. Polk, pronounced as one word, was for me, which was a PLACE called TIGERLAND, where combat soldiers for Viet Nam like myself were prepared.

And if you take for time going through it, tokenny, you will note the drill sergeants have skin that is black, not white!

So much for your benighted theory that blacks are not good enough to serve with the white men!

Here is another video of that same subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i-Cpg9ZIGg

Notice more black faces, tokenny, and not a word as to how offended they are to have to see a military base named after a Confederate general, because they DON’T CARE!

And here is yet another video from that same base:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WubY3664CWs

Again, and I was there, tokenny, you don’t hear anybody in the videos whining and crying about the base being named for a dead Confederate general.

The only ones whining about it are those who would never wear the uniform in the first place, and so, would never know those bases the way a soldier would, because in the end, tokenny, we and they are two entirely different breeds of people.

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 20, 2020 at 4:25 pm

Paul Plante says :

ATTENTION!

ALL ARMY VETERANS!


At any time during or after your time in the military, including up to now, have you been troubled in any way or have you sought counseling and/or treatment for mental and emotional trauma associated with and caused by having to have to serve on a military base named for a dead Confederate General?

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 20, 2020 at 6:10 pm

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Nancy Pelosi and her liberal, progressive Democrats will be coming out with money for disability due to PTSD caused by mental and emotional trauma from being forced by the U.S. Army to have to train or be stationed on a U.S. military base named for one of America’s racist enemies.

On another note, in response to one VEET NAM veteran curious as to who tokenny might be, my reply concerning naming the bases for America’s racist enemies, as the progressives in the VoteVets crowd like to call them, was as follows:

And they LOST, and now, in my opinion, anyway, they have to sit there day after day as the troops who whipped their asses parade in front of them including the black soldiers.

That is what I see as a fitting tribute.

When Washakie, the Shoshone chief, beat Big Robber, the invading Crow war band leader in single combat, he cut out his heart and held it up so the Crow war band could see it, and he told them next time, better get somebody with more heart to follow than this one had (Washakie was over 60 at the time).

That is why Crowheart Ridge in Wyoming still carries that name today, as a reminder.

Naming those bases after dead, failed Confederates sends the same message to the Secesh, as I see it – next time find some better generals and a better cause or you’ll get your ass whupped all over again.

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Just saying.

To another VEET NAM vet with a similar interest in tokenny, I framed the issues in here as follows:

It comes down to should how we (actual military veterans who actually served or trained on those bases) feel about our “military” traditions be determined by those who never served, who wouldn’t serve, and who denigrate the service of those who did serve?

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 22, 2020 at 9:14 pm

Paul Plante says :

A further impetus to revisit this site on the military bases in America named after dead Confederate Generals nobody knows about or cares about except for these revisers and editors of our American history came from an NBC News article with the bizarre headline “‘They committed treason’: Pelosi pushes for removal of Confederate statues, military base names” by Rebecca Shabad on June 11, 2020, where we had ditzy Nancy Pelosi, whose wits appear to have departed her cranial cavity long since, regaling us as follows, to wit:

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Thursday that the names of Confederate leaders must be removed from American military bases and the statues of these men must be taken out of the U.S. Capitol.

“These names have to go from these bases and these statues have to go from the Capitol,” Pelosi told reporters at her weekly press conference.

“The American people know these names have to go.”

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Which is BULL****, Nancy, because the American people, of which I happen to be one, do not know that at all, and further, don’t believe it, because of all the American military tradition and history associated with those bases named just the way they are now.

Getting back to Nancy’s witless foolishness as reported by NBC News, we have:

“These names are white supremacists that said terrible things about our country,” she said.

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And my goodness, Nancy, what a lame line that is, along with stupid.

Tell us, Nancy the ALL-WISE, what were these “terrible things” these white supremacists those bases are named after said about our country?

I was on two of those bases when in the military, Polk and Benning, and I visited Ft. Lee, and I do not have a clue as to a single word any of them might have said about our country, because it is NOT about them or what they said.

Who gives a flying **** what Leonidas Polk might have said about anything?

Besides the senile Nancy Pelosi, that is.

It is about being as good or better than all of those who came before, which is something that somebody in politics peddling her ass all over town for campaign contributions like Nancy Pelosi will never be able to grasp, which takes us back to her stupid statements in the NBC News article, to wit:

“Some of these names were given to these bases.”

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OH BOO HOO HOO HOO HOO, Nancy!

Get over yourself is my thought.

Getting back to the article:

“You listen to who they are and what they said and then you have the president make a case as to why a base should be named for them.”

“He seems to be the only person left who doesn’t get it.”

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You listen to who they are and what they said only if you are stupid, Nancy, like yourself, and obsessed with altering, erasing and obliterating OUR American history for your partisan political purposes, and this does not have a thing to do with Donald Trump who never served and therefore is not a veteran with a voice in this matter of those base names.

This has to do with OUR American history and OUR American military traditions veterans like myself who served on those bases share and do not want to have stripped from us by veteran-hating idiots like yourself afraid of a name of a dead Confederate general that means nothing at all to the people of America today who have managed to get past the Civil War and get on with their lives unburdened and unbound by shackles of the mind from a war long since over and forgotten.

LEAVE OUR HISTORY ALONE, Nancy Pelosi!

And if you want to remove the most enduring symbol of slavery and racism and outright hate there is in America, remove the name of the Democrat Party from our history books and national dialogue by having it outlawed for TREASON, and dismantled.

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 23, 2020 at 6:33 pm

Paul Plante says :

With respect to these base names, and the poisonous partisan politics in this country linking those bases to white supremacy and racism, in a recently published book about the Viet Nam war period in America entitled Young Men In Harm’s Way by Arnold W. Krause, in the Preface, the author states thusly, to wit:

This war undoubtedly has been more controversial than any other conflict we have been involved in.

Political unrest, civil discourse, a popular war which quickly turned unpopular, the peace movement, a general hatred towards the military veterans of this war, the brutality of the North Vietnamese government during and after the war and the damage inflicted on the civilian population, war atrocities and the list goes on.

To the veteran who fought in this war, however, the pride we have for serving our country has never been stronger and that feeling rises above all the other discourse and uneducated noise that this war produced and continues to be under academic assault.

Many on the left side of the political spectrum continue to try and rewrite history and it’s this same mental approach that exists today in Washington D.C. that was born out of the Vietnam War, a divided country with two different views of reality, one being born based on fact and Constitutional fundamentalism, and the other rooted in ideology for social change not truly envisioned by our founding Fathers which views our Constitution as a document that should be ever evolving to match any social changes they deem appropriate or necessary.

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Here we are, all these years later, and we are still a divided country, albeit far more so than I remember the case being back in the 60s and the 70s, and as was the case then, there are still two different views of reality in this country, with one still being born based on fact and Constitutional fundamentalism, and the other, the one pushed by such Democrat party notables as Nancy Pelosi, even more rooted in ideology for social change not truly envisioned by our founding Fathers which views our Constitution as a document that should be ever evolving to match any social changes they deem appropriate or necessary to impose on us by fiat, as is the case with this push by Nancy Pelosi to change the names of these military bases, which takes us back to July 8, 2015, and a Press Release from Nancy Pelosi entitled “Pelosi Remarks at Commemoration Ceremony Honoring the 50th Anniversary of the Vietnam War, Veterans and their Families,” where we were treated to the following from Nancy, to wit:

“As we recognize the courage and sacrifice of these men and women, let us also recognize that we have not done full justice in meeting the needs of our Vietnam-era vets and their families.”

“But as we recognize the time that has passed, let us recall President Lincoln once warned us of the ‘silent artillery of time,’ wearing away at our memories of the sacrifices of past conflicts.”

“The passing years must not, cannot dim the honor and bravery of the three million American men and women who answered the call to serve our country in this war a world away.”

“Time will never diminish the sacrifice of the millions of families whose loved ones were fighting in a difficult and divisive war overseas.”

“We will never forget the memory of those who lost their lives and the families of the 58,253 Americans who were killed in the Vietnam War, the tens and tens of thousands who were wounded – or the more than 1,600 mission in action; as has been mentioned anytime any of us goes to Vietnam or interacts with Vietnam leadership – this is a subject that we discuss.”

“A moment ago, the band played what Secretary Hagel said was the number one song in 1968. ”

“We all remember that – well, some of us weren’t born yet, but the rest of us remember that.”

“It is ‘R.E.S.P.E.C.T. – Respect.’”

“It is respect that has brought us all here today; respect that has drawn thousands of people in communities across the nation together for their own 50th year Vietnam War commemorations across America.”

“Today, 50 years after the creation of the Vietnam Service Medal, gathered together in the halls of the United States Capitol, at the heart of our democracy, we stand united to express the immense respect and recognition our Vietnam veterans have always deserved.”

“In deed, as well as in words, we must repay this great generation of American veterans who served in Vietnam.”

“God has truly blessed America with the men and women who have served our country in uniform – from every era.”

“But today, on behalf of the American people, we say a special ‘thank you’ to our Vietnam veterans.”

“Thank you.”

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And here we are just five short years later, and Nancy Pelosi, for the sake of pandering and political expediency and mollycoddling and truckling, is setting all of that aside, her empty words of five years earlier that “(T)he passing years must not, cannot dim the honor and bravery of the three million American men and women who answered the call to serve our country in this war a world away.”

Our honor that Nancy Pelosi gave us five years ago in 2015, when it was politically expedient for her to do so, which she is now taking back away five years later in 2020, again for the sake of political expediency, is intimately and inextricably tied up with those bases named for dead Confederate generals named Hood, Polk, Benning, Bragg and Rutgers.

What bravery we had came from a desire to not let down the memory of those who came before us on those bases, black as well as white.

What honor we had was instilled in us on those bases by those who came before, black, as well as white.

In 2015 the hypocrite Nancy Pelosi said, “(I)n deed, as well as in words, we must repay this great generation of American veterans who served in Vietnam.”

In my opinion, she can start by stopping being stupid about what these bases mean not only to the veterans she once honored who served there, and trained there, and were instilled with values there, but to the American people as well whose peace and tranquility and national security are maintained and defended by the people who trained on those same bases since Vietnam and who man those bases today, black as well as white.

So Nancy, if you feel that in deed, as well as in words, you must repay this great generation of American veterans who served in Vietnam, which includes myself, then heed my words and LEAVE OUR HISTORY ALONE!

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR June 24, 2020 at 8:56 pm

Paul Plante says :

“America has always been the land of the free and the home of the brave.”

“We are so because of our brave men and women in uniform protect us.”

“Let us honor their sacrifice, their service, their patriotism by recommitting to the values that they fight for on the battlefield.”

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That was Nancy Pelosi back on December 15, 2010 in a Press Release from her office entitled “Pelosi: Repealing ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Will Honor the Service and Sacrifice of All Who Protect Americans.”

In that same Press Release from 2010, Ms. Pelosi also stated as follows, to wit:

“I thank the gentlelady from California, [Susan Davis] the distinguished chair of the subcommittee on this important issue, for her leadership on ending discrimination and how we defend our country.”

“And I particularly want to acknowledge Patrick Murphy.”

“Before Congressman Murphy came to the House, he was a captain in the 82nd Airborne Division and served as a paratrooper in Iraq — in the Iraq War.”

“He understands the issues of military readiness and has demonstrated tremendous leadership on the battlefield and on repealing a policy that does not contribute to our national security.”

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2010, people, and not one single word in there from our Nancy about these military bases whose names she now all of a sudden wants to change some nine-and-a-half years later, for the sake of political expediency coupled with pandering and truckling to the lawless mob she mollycoddles that is tearing down our American history and our American heritage like ISIS did in Syria, to replace our history and our heritage with a foreign one imposed on us by them, by force on their part when they deem it necessary.

Except despite people like Nancy Pelosi, who would sell us out to any enemy of our way of life if it would provide her with partisan political benefit, America has always been the land of the free and the home of the brave and we are so because of our brave men and women in uniform on military bases in America named for dead Confederate generals like Hood, Benning, Polk and Bragg who protect us and our way of life, and as to Congressman Murphy who was a captain in the 82nd Airborne Division and served as a paratrooper in Iraq — in the Iraq War, who understands the issues of military readiness and has demonstrated tremendous leadership on the battlefield and on repealing a policy that does not contribute to our national security, you cannot talk about the famed 82d Airborne without at the same time talking about its home base of Ft. Bragg, and Ft. Benning, where those paratroopers are trained!

So why today?

Why today is Nancy Pelosi demanding those famous bases that house and train those who protect us and keep us safe be named as something different?

Why is Nancy Pelosi bent on appeasing the mob who would destroy our way of life here in the United States of America by stripping us of our history?

And speaking of our history, back on September 27, 2007, Nancy Pelosi issued another Press Release entitled “Democrats Denounce Rush Limbaugh’s ‘Phony Soldiers’ Comment,” wherein we were informed by Nancy as follows:

“Someone should tell chicken-hawk Rush Limbaugh that the only phonies are those who choose not to serve and then criticize those who do.”

“I served proudly, so did two of my fellow paratroopers in the 82nd Airborne who spoke out and died just weeks ago.”

“Generations of American veterans have worn the uniform with pride and we know it is no contradiction to serve your country and still disagree with the Bush-civilian leadership that mismanaged this war.”

— Rep. Patrick Murphy, Iraq Veteran of the 82nd Airborne where he was awarded the Bronze Star for service

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And here we are, back to the 82d Airborne yet again.

Getting back to the Pelosi Press Release:

Rep. Frank Pallone: “Yesterday Limbaugh called service members who support a withdrawal from Iraq ‘phony soldiers.'”

“Is Limbaugh serious?”

“Is a soldier who is honorably serving our nation in Iraq any less a soldier if he questions what appears to be a never ending war?”

“Last month seven soldiers from the US Army 82nd Airborne Division wrote an op-ed in The New York Times questioning our continued war efforts, but also stating, and I quote, ‘we need not talk about our morale, as committed soldiers weeks will see this mission through.'”

“Now since publication of that op-ed, two of the soldiers have died.”

“As this op-ed showed, soldiers may question the war, but it does not mean that they’re any less committed to their mission, and now I wonder if Republicans who showed so much outrage towards MoveOn.org yesterday will hold Rush Limbaugh to the same standard — and I wouldn’t hold your breath.”

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And there is the 82d Airborne yet again, back before Nancy Pelosi condemned them as white supremacist racists because they serve on a base named for a dead Confederate general nobody but Nancy Pelosi knows about or cares about.

And then in an ArmyUpdate article entitled “Former 82nd Airborne Army Ranger Among Impeachment Managers,” we had as follows, to wit:

The Speaker of the House of Representative Nancy Pelosi has named seven impeachment managers for President Donald Trump’s Senate impeachment trial.

They are House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff of California, Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler of New York and Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado.

Freshman Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado is the only U.S. Army Veteran among the seven Democratic House impeachment managers named Wednesday by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to make the case against President Donald Trump in the Senate next week.

In a statement last month supporting Trump’s impeachment, Crow said, “As a member of Congress in this historic time, I reflect on my experience as a soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan where I saw how unique American democracy really is.

“Over the past few years, I have also learned how fragile it can be,” he continued.

“Our system of checks and balances only works when we fight to protect it.”

Congressman Jason Crow, a 40-year-old lawyer and member of the House Armed Services Committee, joined the Army in 2002 and served with the 82nd Airborne Division and 75th Ranger Regiment before leaving the military in 2006 with the rank of captain.

He served in Iraq and Afghanistan and is the recipient of the Bronze Star.

Congressman Crow represents Colorado’s Sixth Congressional District, encompassing Aurora and parts of Adams and Douglas Counties.

Jason worked his way through college before enlisting in the U.S. Army and serving our country in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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And were it not for Ft. Benning and Ft. Bragg here in the United States of America where our best soldiers, black, white, yellow, brown and red are trained, somebody like Jason Crow would never have been able to achieve what he did achieve. becoming a paratrooper in the 82d Airborne to keep our nation safe from its enemies.

NANCY PELOSI: STOP TRUCKLING TO THE MOB INTENT ON BRINGING OUR NATION LOW, AND LEAVE OUR HISTORY AND HERITAGE ALONE!

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Paul Plante says :

And here is where we really get to see just how stupid and ignorant and ridiculous the position taken by Nancy Pelosi, queen of the city that spit on returning veterans from Viet Nam back in 1970, really is with her specious claim that OUR Army bases named Benning, Bragg, Polk, Hood and Rutgers are white supremacist bastions manned by racists, and that is in a newsletter entitled “Fort Bragg celebrates Women’s Equality Day” by Marvin Krause, 43rd Airlift Group, published August 31, 2015, where we learned a bit more about what life on an American military base the witless Pelosi claims is racist is really like, to wit:

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — Team Bragg members celebrated Women’s Equality Day Aug. 26 with a combined yoga exercise at the Polo Field and an observance at the Conference and Catering Center hosted by the 43rd Airlift Group and Team Bragg’s Equal Opportunity Office.

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I have to laugh right out loud when I read that about these alleged white supremacist racists at Ft. Bragg out there doing yoga as they celebrate Women’s Equality Day – not exactly the kind of conduct you would expect from a bunch of white supremacist racists, but let’s read on, because there is more and it gets better, to wit:

The celebration marked the 95th anniversary of the passage of the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote.

Women’s Equality Day is a symbol of women’s continued fight for equal rights and that the United States commends and supports them.

Today, it is celebrated in honor of modern day women’s rights to be seen as equals to men.

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Yes, people, the United States military, despite the slurs cast on it by the ignorant such as Nancy Pelosi, exists to PROTECT our rights and freedoms, not to strip them from us as the mob Nancy Pelosi mollycoddles would do.

Getting back to that article:

Guest speaker Kady-Ann Davy, Fayetteville mayor pro tem, shared her experience with the progress made due to the suffrage movement and the progress still needed in the future.

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For the record, Kady-Ann Davy, the guest speaker on this military base Nancy Pelosi condemns as a bastion of white supremacist racists, is BLACK, so how about that irony for you!

Getting back to the details Nancy Pelosi is grossly ignorant of, because she has her head so far into her *** she don’t know up from down, we have:

Davy, a Kingston, Jamaica native, moved to the United States when she was 4 years old and made Fayetteville her home in 2005, becoming actively engaged in city and community affairs.

She was elected as the District 2 representative to the Fayetteville City Council in 2009 and in 2013, she was unanimously elected as mayor pro tem of Fayetteville.

She is the youngest and the first African American woman in this position.

“Today, we all honor and remember the hard work and the sacrifices that women have made, the sacrifices that their husbands have made, the sacrifices that brings us here to continue to celebrate women’s equality,” Davy said.

Davy challenged Soldiers and Airmen in attendance to continue advancing the women’s rights movement.

“I know that whatever we do, we’re writing a piece of history today,” Davy said.

“We must continue to educate, get engaged and get involved so we can be a part of the solution.”

“This is an important day and I thank you all for this opportunity,” Davy said.

“This opportunity to shine light on the legacy, our history, our heroes, our she-roes, right here in our community–we have many of them.”

“Don’t let the movement stop here.”

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I hear you, Kady-Ann Davy, and my fellow veterans who are not white supremacists and who are not racists, and who greatly resent being labeled as such by a hack politician like Nancy Pelosi hear you as well, and thanks to the courage and courtesy of the Cape Charles Mirror, a truly unique American institution in this very troubled day and age, the candid world hears you as well.

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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR July 2, 2020 at 6:52 pm

Paul Plante says:

And from a Washington Post article entitled “Republicans signal to Trump to back down on defense bill veto threat over renaming Confederate bases” by Rachael Bade and Karoun Demirjian on 2 July 2020, it sounds very much like the words of Kady-Ann Davy, a Kingston, Jamaica native who moved to the United States when she was 4 years old and made Fayetteville, North Carolina, the home of Ft. Bragg and the famed “ALL-AMERICAN” 82d Airborne Division, which American military base Nancy Pelosi and her pack of whining, screeching, emotionally-immature and mentally-disturbed Democrats condemn as a bastion of white supremacist racists, her home in 2005, where she became actively engaged in city and community affairs, being elected as the District 2 representative to the Fayetteville City Council in 2009 and in 2013, being unanimously elected as mayor pro tem of Fayetteville, and being the youngest and the first African American woman in this position, which is an indication of just how far a black immigrant woman can come in this country, thanks in large part to the military veterans in this country who fought and bled and died for her rights as a fellow human being, including those who served on Ft. Bragg, named for a failed, dead Confederate General as a permanent reminder to those who would secede from this country as the Democrats did back in the Civil War days so they could hold people like Kady-Ann Davy in human bondage, what happens when traitors like the Democrats try to harm this nation, who herself was the guest speaker on Ft. Bragg on Women’s Equality Day on August 26, 2015, where Davy challenged AMERICAN Soldiers and Airmen in attendance to continue advancing the women’s rights movement, saying, “(T)his opportunity to shine light on the legacy, our history, our heroes, our she-roes, right here in our community – we have many of them, don’t let the movement stop here,” are going to be disregarded by the Democrats, who are literally trying to erase our history in this nation because they don’t like it, since it shines an uncomfortable light for them on the racist history of the Democrat party in this nation.

One would think that if anyone in the country was going to get themselves all exercised and bent out of shape mentally and emotionally about Fort Bragg in Fayetteville, North Carolina being named for Braxton Bragg, a Confederate corps commander at the Battle of Shiloh, where he launched several costly and unsuccessful frontal assaults, stupidly wasting the lives of his troops, and who is generally considered among the worst generals of the Civil War with most of the battles in which he engaged ending in defeat, a man who was extremely unpopular with both the men and the officers of his command, who criticized him for numerous perceived faults, including poor battlefield strategy, a quick temper, and overzealous discipline, and who generally has a poor reputation with historians, with the losses which Bragg suffered being cited as principal factors in the ultimate defeat of the Confederacy, it would have to be Kady-Ann Davy, who as a black female immigrant has to deal with that hated symbol of white supremacy and racism staring her right in the face each and every day, and yet, there she was big as life, not only not running Ft. Bragg down like the Democrats in Congress are doing, but admonishing its soldiers to take “(T)his opportunity to shine light on the legacy, our history, our heroes, our she-roes, right here in our community – we have many of them, don’t let the movement stop here.”

So if she as a black woman wants to shine light on the legacy and history of the many, many heroes and she-roes of the Ft. Bragg community, why are the Democrats in Washington, D.C. trying to snuff that light out?

Getting back to that Washington Post article, we have as follows:

President Trump is increasingly isolated over his staunch defense of Confederate symbols on military bases, as uneasy congressional Republicans signal to the White House that now is not the time to hold the Pentagon hostage to this one issue.

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Now, that sentence is pure journalistic BULL**** with that mindless, infantile blather about “Confederate symbols” on military bases, because having actually been a United States soldier, and having actually served on active duty as a United States soldier on two of those bases, I can say with authority that there are NO “Confederate symbols” on those bases, and the Washington Post is talking like the A-HOLE it is in saying that.

Getting back to that story, we have:

Trump threatened late Tuesday to veto a $740 billion defense policy bill if it included bipartisan language mandating the removal of the names of Confederate leaders from military installations.

Hours later, Republicans on both sides of the Capitol made it clear the president needs to back down in a fight over honoring secessionists who fought the United States to maintain slavery.

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And if those Republicans actually did say that, they are as big A-HOLES as are the staff of the Washington Post, because Ft. Bragg does not “HONOR” Braxton Bragg – to the contrary, it serves as a daily reminder to each and every person in this country what happens to a people stupid enough to have a general as stupid and inept as their general in a fight against the REAL AMERICAN CITIZENS of this nation in defense of their Republic and their Union, which the Democrats who had Braxton Bragg as their general tried to destroy in the Civil War, just as they are trying to destroy it again by fomenting division and another civil war.

Go back and look at how history itself looks at Braxton Bragg, and ask yourself, what on earth is there in his miserable record to “honor,” besides nothing.

But there is plenty in there to mock, which is why his name is on an American military base in the state of North Carolina.

So these Republicans, if they said that, are simply proving just how ignorant of American history a person can be, and still hold a seat in either the House of Representatives, or the U.S. Senate, where being an ignorant fool does not bar one from serving in either.

Getting back to the story:

Members of the (Congressional Black) caucus also are hoping to pass a bill requiring the removal of all Confederate statues from Statuary Hall in the Capitol — possibly by month’s end, according to House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.).

“Symbols matter,” said Thompson, who is crafting a bill to send Confederate statues in the Capitol to the Smithsonian.

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They sure do, Bennie, which is why those symbols of the failed effort of the Democrats to destroy our Union so they could hold black people as slaves on those military bases named for the Confederate generals matter greatly – SO PEOPLE WILL NOT FORGET WHO THEY WERE AND WHAT THEY FAILED TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHY AND BECAUSE OF WHOM!

Getting back to the Washington Post and more mindless balderdash from House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), we have this, to wit:

“The president of the Confederacy is one of two statues that we have here in the Capitol from my state of Mississippi,” referring to Jefferson Davis.

He gestured to his fellow caucus members and added: “If that gentleman had won the war, as president, none of these people would be here in Congress today.”

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Except he didn’t win, Bennie!

HE LOST!

Why can’t you accept that and move on with your life like all the rest of the people in America have done who don’t obsess day and night about Confederates like Jefferson Davis who has been dead since December 6, 1889?

What’s with all this continuing whiney BULL**** about what might have happened had history been completely different from what it actually was?

What kind of warped and twisted mind does it take for a people to be so far mired in the past as is this House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), who spends his days hating Jefferson Davis, instead of living in the present and looking towards the future like sane and rational people do in America.

Getting back to the story and more ignorance from House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), we have:

“I’m not certain we should hold people like that in high esteem.”

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AND WE DON’T, Bennie!

WE SANE AND RATIONAL PEOPLE IN AMERICA DO NOT HOLD JEFFERSON DAVIS IN HIGH ESTEEM BECAUSE HE IS A LOSER, AND IN AMERICA, WE DO NOT HONOR LOSERS OR HOLD THEM IN HIGH ESTEEM!

WE HOLD THEM IN CONTEMPT!


Moving right along here, we have this nonsense next:

Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.), chairman of the caucus, echoed the sentiment, asking her colleagues to see themselves in caucus members’ shoes: “If you could just absorb for a minute what it feels like … to walk past statutes of people who didn’t even feel we were human, who wanted us to be in chains.”

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You need to see a psychiatrist, Karen, because if you are troubled by a statue of somebody who has been dead since 1889, you have some very serious mental problems.

Getting back to the Washington Post, we have another witless moron stepping up to the plate to prove that morons have as much right as anyone else to sit in the United States Senate, to wit:

“I would be happy to see, I would support changing the names of bases that were named in the honor of Confederate generals,” said Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah).

“Those individuals fought against the United States of America and we should instead be honoring people who fought for the United States of America.”

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MEMO TO MITT, WHO NEVER SERVED:

Those bases were not intended to, nor do they, “honor” Confederate generals who fought against the United States – to the contrary, they make an example of those generals every day to the people of America who had those people the bases are named for as their generals when they LOST the Civil War!

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