THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 19, 2020 at 11:22 pm
Paul Plante says:
As to this so-called “audit” of the Albany Police Department that was in reality a witch hunt using $80,000 of taxpayer money in an effort to paint a picture of the Albany Police Department being a hotbed of seething anti-Black racism, let’s go back for a moment to the Albany Times Union “Albany Council discusses police reform legislation – Police chief, mayor react to audit that suggest bias within city police department” by Steve Hughes on Nov. 5, 2020, where we have as follows:
The audit done by CNA, a nonprofit research and analysis organization, found that Black residents made up roughly 65 percent of both arrests and traffic stops that ended in arrests.
It stopped short of blaming the discrepancies on bias within the department or among individual officers, noting that a combination how the department collects information and the lack of information on individual police stops made it impossible to determine the exact cause of the disparities.
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So, if it stopped short of blaming these so-called “discrepancies” between arrests of white skinned people versus Black, which is a stupid comparison to start for a host of reasons, on bias within the department or among individual officers, then it would logically follow that the City asked them to look for bias, which is to say, the City asked this company from Virginia to help the City hang its police department, and the company from Virginia failed in that mission, which takes us back to that same TU article, as follows:
City Auditor Dorcey Appylrs hired the firm in August for $80,000 as part of a larger city review of its police department and its policies.
That review is required by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo’s executive order that says municipalities must do comprehensive reviews of their police departments and develop plans to reform them.
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And here we get to ground zero with that statement that this $80,000 review was required by an executive order of “Willie Horton” Democrat governor Andy Cuomo that says municipalities must do comprehensive reviews of their police departments and develop plans to reform them.
So why is the Albany Police Department going to be “reformed?”
Because Andy Cuomo wants it that way.
Does he have any reason to believe the Albany Police Department needs reform?
Obviously not, since this company from Virginia failed to find any, but what does evidence have to do with anything, besides nothing, when it is about the politics of race game Andy Cuomo and Kathy Sheehan of Albany are playing here as they pander and grovel to BLACK LIVES MATTER?
If this audit was to be a real audit, the first thing it would have discussed would have been the reasons why the Albany Police Department exists in the first place, because if you are really going to “reform” something, as opposed to cripple it, which takes us to a discussion of the “police power” of the “state,” which has existed since at least Biblical times, where we have as follows on that subject from the Legal Information Institute, an independently-funded project of the Cornell Law School where a small team of technologists who believe that everyone should be able to read and understand the laws that govern them employ technology to gather, process, and publish public legal information that is accurate and objective, as follows:
“Property” and Police Power.
States have an inherent “police power” to promote public safety, health, morals, public convenience, and general prosperity.
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There is where this so-called audit should have started, right there with that statement about the “police power” being for the purpose of promoting public safety, health, morals, public convenience, and general prosperity, followed by the question, “Is the Albany Police Department promoting public safety, health, morals, public convenience, and general prosperity in the City of Albany, and if not, why not?”
But it didn’t.
Does the Albany Police Department promote public safety?
The audit does not say.
Does the Albany Police Department fail to promote public safety?
Again, we don’t know.
All we know right now is that there is no evidence of bias against Black people in Albany, New York and obviously, that is not what Alice Green of Albany wants to hear.
The next thing this audit would have done if it was a legitimate audit as opposed to what it really was, a fishing expedition and witch hunt to appease the anti-police, anti-law and order BLACK LIVES MATTER movement, would have been to explain that regardless of how it might be done elsewhere, including Virginia, the actions of the Police in Albany are governed by the New York State Penal Law which states in Penal Law § 1.05, General purposes, as follows:
The general purposes of the provisions of this chapter are:
1. To proscribe conduct which unjustifiably and inexcusably causes or threatens substantial harm to individual or public interests;
2. To give fair warning of the nature of the conduct proscribed and of the sentences authorized upon conviction;
3. To define the act or omission and the accompanying mental state which constitute each offense;
4. To differentiate on reasonable grounds between serious and minor offenses and to prescribe proportionate penalties therefor;
5. To provide for an appropriate public response to particular offenses, including consideration of the consequences of the offense for the victim, including the victim’s family, and the community; and
6. To insure the public safety by preventing the commission of offenses through the deterrent influence of the sentences authorized, the rehabilitation of those convicted, the promotion of their successful and productive reentry and reintegration into society, and their confinement when required in the interests of public protection.
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There is what this audit should have been looking for if it was to have been a legitimate audit, as opposed to a fishing expedition, evidence as to whether the Albany Police Department is properly enforcing the provisions of the New York State Penal Law which were enacted in the name of the People of the State of New York, regardless of skin color, to proscribe conduct which unjustifiably and inexcusably causes or threatens substantial harm to individual or public interests.
Yes, they are?
Or no, they are not!
It really was that simple.
In New York state, the purpose of the Penal Law that the Albany Police are to enforce is to insure the public safety by preventing the commission of offenses through the deterrent influence of the sentences authorized, the rehabilitation of those convicted, the promotion of their successful and productive reentry and reintegration into society, and their confinement when required in the interests of public protection.
TO INSURE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BY PREVENTING THE COMMISSION OF OFFENSES, which obviously is not happening in Albany, New York where we see Albany Times Union headlines screaming at us as follows: “Albany Common Council seeks outside help to deal with violence – Police arrest three in connection with Monday drive-by” by Steve Hughes on Oct. 21, 2020:
ALBANY – Common Council members all but demanded the city bring in outside law enforcement agencies to help deal with a historically violent year in its borders.
Councilors spoke in favor of the move, with one going as far as to call on the city to declare a state of emergency after two men were wounded in a drive-by shooting in the city’s South End while the Council was meeting Monday evening.
The shooting on Mount Hope Drive was the fifth shooting in 48 hours and at least the third time this year six or more people had been shot within a two-day span in the city.
At least 116 people have been shot in the city so far this year, with 16 homicides.
Law enforcement officials believe much of the violence is tied to gang encounters in between groups in Albany as well feuds with gangs in Troy.
The city needs to realize it has a gang problem and to rely on outside law enforcement, such as the Albany County Sheriff’s Department, to help deal with it, said Council President Corey Ellis.
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And this: “Albany nears 100 people being hit by bullets in 2020 – Four people shot Saturday night in continuing plague of violence” by Massarah Mikati on Aug. 9, 2020:
ALBANY — It was just before 8 p.m. Saturday when the sound of gunshots split the air in West Hill at least 20 times in a row.
Four people were shot.
One of them, an 18-year-old, died.
Saturday’s shooting, which Albany police say was a drive-by with more than one shooter in the vehicle, brings the city’s total number of gunshot victims this year to 91.
The victim is the 11th person to be killed in Albany so far in 2020, as part of a wave of violence and gun incidents that have hit the city.
According to Sheehan, there has been a 15 percent increase in all violent crime cases — which includes more than just shootings — in 2020 compared to 2019.
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And this: “As shootings rise, young offenders in Albany ‘run ragged’ – Albany joins other cities across NY seeing surge in gun violence, much of it caused by teenagers” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 12, 2020:
The 17-year-old had been arrested for the day care shooting a year ago and was initially charged with attempted murder, reckless endangerment, assault and tampering with evidence.
But his arrest kept him in custody at a juvenile facility only briefly, in part due to New York’s bail-reform statutes and a “Raise the Age” law that went into effect over the past two years — creating a new “adolescent offender” category that ensures 16- and 17-year-olds are not automatically prosecuted in adult courts or placed in adult jails, even for crimes of violence.
The statute was intended to ensure young offenders are not unfairly punished, and to provide them with services needed to rehabilitate and reintegrate them into their communities rather than throwing them in prison.
Pressing for those reforms, advocates noted that New York was one of the last states to automatically treat offenders as young as 16 as adults in criminal prosecutions.
The state passed the legislation with reimbursable funding intended to help expand local programs to aid the troubled youths.
But a fallout of the statute has been a veritable revolving door in the youth justice system that has been evident in the city of Albany, which has been rocked by gun violence this year.
Some of that violence has involved cases in which juvenile offenders were placed under the supervision of probation officials rather than incarcerated — with many being re-arrested, often on gun charges, only to be released again.
Although a large number of Albany’s shootings this year — which are up nearly 400 percent from 2019 — have involved victims and suspects age 18 or older, there have also been dozens of violent crimes attributed to youthful offenders in the past two years.
Interviews with law enforcement officials and crime victims, and a months-long review of criminal cases handled in Family Court and the Youth Part of Criminal Court in Albany County, reveal numerous instances in which offenders whose release on supervision was fostered under the new statutes were subsequently arrested for committing new crimes, including murder.
Over roughly the past two years, Albany County has handled more than 100 youth and adolescent criminal cases: 31 involving weapons possession charges; 45 robberies; 16 assaults; and seven charges of murder or attempted murder.
In addition, at least a dozen teenage boys and young men involved in Albany shootings and gun cases over the past two years were not incarcerated after their arrests due to the Raise the Age statutes and the more recent bail reform changes, according to police and court records, as well as interviews with law enforcement officials.
Many of the youthful offenders, law enforcement officials said, also have been keenly aware of the relative leniency of the new statutes, and are exploiting them by failing to charge or simply cutting off GPS ankle-monitoring bracelets so that probation officers can’t monitor their whereabouts.
Even when they are hauled in front of a judge, they often are put back on house arrest, where parents often struggle to control them.
Although there has been no formal studies on the statutes’ impact on criminal statistics, part of Albany’s explosion in shootings this year has been at the hands of teenagers released under the supervision of probation officers rather than jailed as adults.
“There’s nothing that fell through the cracks, but there is a chasm that was created by Raise the Age … and the (new) bail laws,” Albany County District Attorney David Soares said.
“The (state) district attorneys association continued to provide warnings as to what would occur.”
“… We warned about the fact that young people are carrying weapons and shooting each other, that the process in Family Court was not adequate … and at the time we were told we were fear-mongering.”
Soares said for 16 years his office had a program — Operation Speeding Bullet — in which they would seek to have people arrested for shootings or weapons possession incarcerated and only pursue plea agreements that included prison terms.
But that program fell apart when bail reform measures went into effect earlier this year that struck illegal gun possession off the the list of alleged offenses that allow judges to set bail.
Although there have been no formal studies of the spiking crime rates across New York this year — the state’s overall crime rate is up 10 percent — statistics show the increase in gun violence in Albany is being mirrored in other cities that have seen explosions in the number of shootings and homicides.
“Because of reform, the new rule becomes: If you have a gun, we have to actually wait for you to kill someone,” Soares said.
“Judges can’t consider dangerousness.”
“Judges can’t use their discretion.”
“What you have in Albany — and you have it in Syracuse and you have it in Buffalo and you have it in Rochester — this is not a coincidence.”
When there are cycles of shootings, Soares said, police and prosecutors had previously used other tactics to lock up shooting suspects or individuals likely to engage in a retaliatory gun violence, including arresting them for drug charges or other criminal activity.
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But they can’t do that, because that is considered “systemic racism” to actually go after the criminals committing these violent acts, so hey, I know the solution – instead of focusing on who is committing the crimes, which we already know, let’s instead look the other way and use $80,000 of tax payer money to find evidence that the Albany Police are guilty of systemic racism because it is focused on going after those violent criminals instead of coddling them because they are Black to justify reforming the Albany Police Department to make it more criminal friendly, and as was said above, if this sounds like a tale from “Stories of the Extreme Bizarre and Insane,” believe me, it is.
And once again, welcome my friends to the show that never ends in bizarro world of Alice Green, Kathy Sheehan, the Albany Times Union, Rex Smith and BLACK LIVES MATTER.
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THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 21, 2020 at 11:14 pm
Paul Plante says:
And as we continue to look at the weird **** going on in the violent Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York under mayor Kathy Sheehan, first, let me say that were this BLACK LIVES MATTER horse**** with the Albany, New York Police Department going on in some random city in New York, or Virginia, and some other state, other than the state capital, which is not Democrat mayor Kathy Sheehan’s personal fiefdom, although she would surely dispute that fact, I would have to consider it not of much consequence to those living outside those cities.
But when it is happening in the state capital as it clearly is here; when huge intimidating BLACK LIVES MATTER banners are seen flying over the entrance to Albany City Hall, it is quite different, as that is where people must travel to as that is where the state’s business is conducted, including its Appellate Division, Third Department of State Supreme Court where lawsuits against the state are heard, so that the state of law and order in that city is quite important to everyone in the state, or even in other states, where citizens of those states have to travel to Albany for business reasons.
So this game Kathy Sheehan and Alice Green and City Auditor Dorcey Appylrs are playing here with this CNA audit as an attempt to discredit the Albany Police Department is important to everyone not only in this state, but elsewhere as well, as the purpose of the New York State Penal Law is to protect us from the criminals roaming free in Kathy Sheehan’s sanctuary city, not to protect the criminals from the law, as Andy Cuomo, Kathy Sheehan and Alice Green and BLACK LIVES MATTER want it to be.
And that takes us back to an Albany, New York Times Union article entitled “Churchill: Who’s to blame for Albany’s spike in shootings? – City experiencing a dramatic rise in gun violence, and some are blaming Mayor Sheehan” by Chris Churchill on June 27, 2020, where we have as follows:
ALBANY — One reader who writes regularly is alarmed, understandably, by the frightening spike in violence this summer.
He thinks I should take Albany’s mayor to task for it.
“I know you like to kick Gov. Andrew Cuomo in the shins when you can, but why are you as quiet as a church mouse regarding Kathy Sheehan?” he wrote, noting that he, a lifelong Albanian, has never seen anything like the mayhem of recent weeks.
“How long will you stay silent on her mishandling of the crime issue in Albany?” he asked.
“What is the limit of dead and wounded that you are willing to tolerate before asking questions about her policing policy?”
No doubt, the violence has been both shocking and sickening.
This month alone, through Friday, there were at least 36 shootings and four killings in the city.
So far this year, eight people have been killed, more than double last year’s total.
My letter writer isn’t the only one pointing a finger at Sheehan.
You can easily find similar thoughts on talk radio and social media.
And if I thought the mayor was to blame, I’d be more than willing to join in.
I don’t think she is.
Sheehan didn’t put guns in the hands of the young men who open fire even in broad daylight.
She didn’t give them a callous disregard for life.
She isn’t responsible for the national economic policies that have created neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in American cities.
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Horse****, all of it, as can be expected from a Hearst Communications rag, and it is not national economic policies that have created neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in Albany, New York – no, far from it, those neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in Albany, New York were created by politicians in Albany, New York, aided and abetted by state government in Albany which helped create those those neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in Albany, New York.
But the dude is an apologist for Kathy Sheehan, so what else can we expect, which takes us back to 2018 and a Times Union article entitled “At swearing in, Sheehan promises profound changes in Albany” by Wendy Liberatore on Jan. 1, 2018, where we had a different story, as follows:
ALBANY – Mayor Kathy Sheehan took the oath of office Monday, beginning her second term with a promise to focus attention on every neighborhood in the city.
In the rotunda at City Hall, Sheehan called herself a pragmatist who will work to make every corner of the city a place that is safe, where good quality housing is available, where residents have access to good jobs and children have access to a great education.
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So, okay, recapping here, folks, in 2018, Democrat mayor Kathy Sheehan of the sanctuary city of Albany, New York, which is BLACK LIVES MATTER turf, began her second term with a promise to focus attention on every neighborhood in the city and called herself a pragmatist who will work to make every corner of the city a place that is safe, where good quality housing is available, where residents have access to good jobs and children have access to a great education, and now that it is not that way at all, and in fact, is far worse, the same Times Union is now saying it’s no fault of Kathy Sheehan’s, which takes us back to that 2018 article as follows:
“It’s not a flashy thing,” Sheehan said after she took the oath of office with her husband, Bob, and son, Jay, by her side.
“But it will profoundly change our city.”
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And with this violence we are seeing in her city in 2020, where lawless savages run loose on a shooting and killing spree, because that is what savages do, which is why Karl Marx called them savages, it can truthfully be said that yes, between them, BLACK LIVES MATTER and Kathy Sheehan have indeed profoundly changed the city of Albany for the worse, which again takes us back to that article as follows:
Sheehan pointed to achievements in her first four-year term to justify her optimism for the next four.
She recited a long list that included fiscal accountability and savings and improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation.
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So, in 2018, Democrat Kathy Sheehan, who wants us all to embrace the gross ignorance that is the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement recited a long list of what she called HER achievements that included improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation.
So like Lori Lightfoot in Chicago, it is obvious that in 2018, Kathy Sheehan of Albany, New York was very much a hand’s-on mayor when it comes to tweaking and controlling the programs of the Albany Police Department, which means that before the Times Union had her not being responsible for how law enforcement in Albany is conducted in 2020, the Times Union had her being responsible for how law enforcement in Albany was conducted in 2018, which is an indication of the schizophrenic nature of this on-going drama where “schizophrenia,” which certainly can apply as well to a city government like that in Albany as it can to an individual, is defined as a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation, a mentality or approach characterized by inconsistent or contradictory elements, which certainly applies to the administration of mayor Kathy Sheehan, which takes us back to the Albany Times Union, as follows:
“Albany is a special place.”
“It is filled with people who care, who are kind to one another and love our great city.”
“If this vision can be accomplished anywhere, it is here.”
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And as I sit here shaking my head in disbelief at that statement about Albany being is a special place filled with people who care, who are kind to one another and love our great city, that takes us to a New York Post story entitled “Son of Albany mayor robbed and beaten while delivering pizzas: report” by Jon Levine on August 3, 2019, where we have as follows in connection with this bizarre saga, to wit:
The son of Albany mayor Kathy Sheehan was beaten and robbed while delivering pizzas late Wednesday evening, the Times Union reported.
“Two black males in their 20s, both wearing dark-colored clothing, jumped out of bushes and began to punch and kick the pizza delivery driver,” Albany police officer Steven Smith told the paper.
“They stole two pizzas and his money.”
“The driver had some injuries to his face as a result of being punched, and refused medical attention.”
Violent crime has surged in Albany in recent years, with the paper noting that 2018 “was one of the deadliest the city has seen in the last two decades.”
The attack on Sheehan’s son comes as the city also faces an acute shortage of police officers.
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And all of that background takes us to a Times Union story entitled “Albany hiring firm to study racial bias in police department” by Steve Hughes on Aug. 24, 2020, to wit:
ALBANY — The city is hiring a Virginia-based firm to conduct a study of racial bias in the Albany Police Department.
Chief City Auditor Dorcey Applyrs said the city will pay CNA, a nonprofit research and analysis organization that got its start tracking Nazi U-boat attacks, $80,000 to do the audit along with members of her staff.
At a brief news conference in front of City Hall, Applyrs said that in order for the city to make the right decisions about its police department, it needed to understand the extent of any implicit or racial basis in the department.
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So, if it is true in 2020 that in order for the city to make the right decisions about its police department, it needed to understand the extent of any implicit or racial basis in the department, why wasn’t that done in 2018, or even earlier, by mayor Kathy Sheehan who is quite obviously personally responsible for how the Albany Police Department functions today given that in 2018, in the same Times Union, she recited a long list of her achievements as mayor that included improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation?
Getting back to that Times Union article, Dorcey Applyrs continues as follows:
“We must use all of our platforms to promote racial justice and begin the healing we so desperately need in cities all across our nation,” she said.
The audit will examine the department’s internal operations, policies and procedures, looking for evidence of implicit and racial biases and how they impact city residents.
Auditors will be looking at data related to traffic stops, use of force and other department interactions with the public over a five-year period.
The firm’s findings will provide the city with a “baseline of information” to help drive decision making about reforms.
Applyrs hinted at other audits to come, saying her office was adopting an “equity lens” for all city audits, using a toolkit developed by the city of Seattle’s audit office.
“We were looking for a firm who could balance the understanding of communities of color…but also a firm who understands law enforcement culture,” she said.
Sheehan said she had discussed the planned audit with Applyrs and the city recognized that it needed outside help to do a in-depth examination.
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But wait, isn’t this is the same Kathy Sheehan who in 2018 recited a long list of her achievements that included improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation?
So what has changed?
How did a police department that was a model for the nation in 2018 become something that in 2020 needs to be reformed because it is now a hotbed of anti-Black racism?
How on earth could that have happened, and Kathy Sheehan bear no responsibility?
An existential question for us to ponder in the new day and age of BLACK LIVES MATTER.
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Paul Plante says:
And as we continue to look at the weird **** going on in the violent Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York under mayor Kathy Sheehan, first, let me say that were this BLACK LIVES MATTER horse**** with the Albany, New York Police Department going on in some random city in New York, or Virginia, and some other state, other than the state capital, which is not Democrat mayor Kathy Sheehan’s personal fiefdom, although she would surely dispute that fact, I would have to consider it not of much consequence to those living outside those cities.
But when it is happening in the state capital as it clearly is here; when huge intimidating BLACK LIVES MATTER banners are seen flying over the entrance to Albany City Hall, it is quite different, as that is where people must travel to as that is where the state’s business is conducted, including its Appellate Division, Third Department of State Supreme Court where lawsuits against the state are heard, so that the state of law and order in that city is quite important to everyone in the state, or even in other states, where citizens of those states have to travel to Albany for business reasons.
So this game Kathy Sheehan and Alice Green and City Auditor Dorcey Appylrs are playing here with this CNA audit as an attempt to discredit the Albany Police Department is important to everyone not only in this state, but elsewhere as well, as the purpose of the New York State Penal Law is to protect us from the criminals roaming free in Kathy Sheehan’s sanctuary city, not to protect the criminals from the law, as Andy Cuomo, Kathy Sheehan and Alice Green and BLACK LIVES MATTER want it to be.
And that takes us back to an Albany, New York Times Union article entitled “Churchill: Who’s to blame for Albany’s spike in shootings? – City experiencing a dramatic rise in gun violence, and some are blaming Mayor Sheehan” by Chris Churchill on June 27, 2020, where we have as follows:
ALBANY — One reader who writes regularly is alarmed, understandably, by the frightening spike in violence this summer.
He thinks I should take Albany’s mayor to task for it.
“I know you like to kick Gov. Andrew Cuomo in the shins when you can, but why are you as quiet as a church mouse regarding Kathy Sheehan?” he wrote, noting that he, a lifelong Albanian, has never seen anything like the mayhem of recent weeks.
“How long will you stay silent on her mishandling of the crime issue in Albany?” he asked.
“What is the limit of dead and wounded that you are willing to tolerate before asking questions about her policing policy?”
No doubt, the violence has been both shocking and sickening.
This month alone, through Friday, there were at least 36 shootings and four killings in the city.
So far this year, eight people have been killed, more than double last year’s total.
My letter writer isn’t the only one pointing a finger at Sheehan.
You can easily find similar thoughts on talk radio and social media.
And if I thought the mayor was to blame, I’d be more than willing to join in.
I don’t think she is.
Sheehan didn’t put guns in the hands of the young men who open fire even in broad daylight.
She didn’t give them a callous disregard for life.
She isn’t responsible for the national economic policies that have created neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in American cities.
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Horse****, all of it, as can be expected from a Hearst Communications rag, and it is not national economic policies that have created neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in Albany, New York – no, far from it, those neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in Albany, New York were created by politicians in Albany, New York, aided and abetted by state government in Albany which helped create those those neighborhoods of despair and anxiety in Albany, New York.
But the dude is an apologist for Kathy Sheehan, so what else can we expect, which takes us back to 2018 and a Times Union article entitled “At swearing in, Sheehan promises profound changes in Albany” by Wendy Liberatore on Jan. 1, 2018, where we had a different story, as follows:
ALBANY – Mayor Kathy Sheehan took the oath of office Monday, beginning her second term with a promise to focus attention on every neighborhood in the city.
In the rotunda at City Hall, Sheehan called herself a pragmatist who will work to make every corner of the city a place that is safe, where good quality housing is available, where residents have access to good jobs and children have access to a great education.
end quotes
So, okay, recapping here, folks, in 2018, Democrat mayor Kathy Sheehan of the sanctuary city of Albany, New York, which is BLACK LIVES MATTER turf, began her second term with a promise to focus attention on every neighborhood in the city and called herself a pragmatist who will work to make every corner of the city a place that is safe, where good quality housing is available, where residents have access to good jobs and children have access to a great education, and now that it is not that way at all, and in fact, is far worse, the same Times Union is now saying it’s no fault of Kathy Sheehan’s, which takes us back to that 2018 article as follows:
“It’s not a flashy thing,” Sheehan said after she took the oath of office with her husband, Bob, and son, Jay, by her side.
“But it will profoundly change our city.”
end quotes
And with this violence we are seeing in her city in 2020, where lawless savages run loose on a shooting and killing spree, because that is what savages do, which is why Karl Marx called them savages, it can truthfully be said that yes, between them, BLACK LIVES MATTER and Kathy Sheehan have indeed profoundly changed the city of Albany for the worse, which again takes us back to that article as follows:
Sheehan pointed to achievements in her first four-year term to justify her optimism for the next four.
She recited a long list that included fiscal accountability and savings and improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation.
end quotes
So, in 2018, Democrat Kathy Sheehan, who wants us all to embrace the gross ignorance that is the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement recited a long list of what she called HER achievements that included improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation.
So like Lori Lightfoot in Chicago, it is obvious that in 2018, Kathy Sheehan of Albany, New York was very much a hand’s-on mayor when it comes to tweaking and controlling the programs of the Albany Police Department, which means that before the Times Union had her not being responsible for how law enforcement in Albany is conducted in 2020, the Times Union had her being responsible for how law enforcement in Albany was conducted in 2018, which is an indication of the schizophrenic nature of this on-going drama where “schizophrenia,” which certainly can apply as well to a city government like that in Albany as it can to an individual, is defined as a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation, a mentality or approach characterized by inconsistent or contradictory elements, which certainly applies to the administration of mayor Kathy Sheehan, which takes us back to the Albany Times Union, as follows:
“Albany is a special place.”
“It is filled with people who care, who are kind to one another and love our great city.”
“If this vision can be accomplished anywhere, it is here.”
end quotes
And as I sit here shaking my head in disbelief at that statement about Albany being is a special place filled with people who care, who are kind to one another and love our great city, that takes us to a New York Post story entitled “Son of Albany mayor robbed and beaten while delivering pizzas: report” by Jon Levine on August 3, 2019, where we have as follows in connection with this bizarre saga, to wit:
The son of Albany mayor Kathy Sheehan was beaten and robbed while delivering pizzas late Wednesday evening, the Times Union reported.
“Two black males in their 20s, both wearing dark-colored clothing, jumped out of bushes and began to punch and kick the pizza delivery driver,” Albany police officer Steven Smith told the paper.
“They stole two pizzas and his money.”
“The driver had some injuries to his face as a result of being punched, and refused medical attention.”
Violent crime has surged in Albany in recent years, with the paper noting that 2018 “was one of the deadliest the city has seen in the last two decades.”
The attack on Sheehan’s son comes as the city also faces an acute shortage of police officers.
end quotes
And all of that background takes us to a Times Union story entitled “Albany hiring firm to study racial bias in police department” by Steve Hughes on Aug. 24, 2020, to wit:
ALBANY — The city is hiring a Virginia-based firm to conduct a study of racial bias in the Albany Police Department.
Chief City Auditor Dorcey Applyrs said the city will pay CNA, a nonprofit research and analysis organization that got its start tracking Nazi U-boat attacks, $80,000 to do the audit along with members of her staff.
At a brief news conference in front of City Hall, Applyrs said that in order for the city to make the right decisions about its police department, it needed to understand the extent of any implicit or racial basis in the department.
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So, if it is true in 2020 that in order for the city to make the right decisions about its police department, it needed to understand the extent of any implicit or racial basis in the department, why wasn’t that done in 2018, or even earlier, by mayor Kathy Sheehan who is quite obviously personally responsible for how the Albany Police Department functions today given that in 2018, in the same Times Union, she recited a long list of her achievements as mayor that included improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation?
Getting back to that Times Union article, Dorcey Applyrs continues as follows:
“We must use all of our platforms to promote racial justice and begin the healing we so desperately need in cities all across our nation,” she said.
The audit will examine the department’s internal operations, policies and procedures, looking for evidence of implicit and racial biases and how they impact city residents.
Auditors will be looking at data related to traffic stops, use of force and other department interactions with the public over a five-year period.
The firm’s findings will provide the city with a “baseline of information” to help drive decision making about reforms.
Applyrs hinted at other audits to come, saying her office was adopting an “equity lens” for all city audits, using a toolkit developed by the city of Seattle’s audit office.
“We were looking for a firm who could balance the understanding of communities of color…but also a firm who understands law enforcement culture,” she said.
Sheehan said she had discussed the planned audit with Applyrs and the city recognized that it needed outside help to do a in-depth examination.
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But wait, isn’t this is the same Kathy Sheehan who in 2018 recited a long list of her achievements that included improvements in community policing, which she called a model for the nation?
So what has changed?
How did a police department that was a model for the nation in 2018 become something that in 2020 needs to be reformed because it is now a hotbed of anti-Black racism?
How on earth could that have happened, and Kathy Sheehan bear no responsibility?
An existential question for us to ponder in the new day and age of BLACK LIVES MATTER.
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 22, 2020 at 7:12 pm
Paul Plante says:
And as we watch this on-going “demonizing” of the Albany, New York Police Department as a hotbed of anti-Black systemic racism and Jim Crow by the administration of Democrat Kathy Sheehan, who herself has taken the knee in an act of surrender and submission to BLACK LIVES MATTER, what we are witnessing here in the violent Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York under mayor Kathy Sheehan is nothing less than a BLACK LIVES MATTER coup, not the sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government we often think of when we hear the word “coup,” but instead, in this case, a highly successful, unexpected stroke, act, or move by BLACK LIVES MATTER to take control of government in the capital city of New York state; a clever action or accomplishment; a brilliant, sudden, and usually highly successful stroke or act on their part, which takes us back to a Newsweek article entitled “BLM Leader: We’ll ‘Burn’ the System Down If U.S. Won’t Give Us What We Want” by Meghan Roos on 6/25/20, where we had a bad-ass BLACK LIVES MATTER dude named Hawk Newsome telling us exactly how that coup came about as follows, to wit:
A leader of Black Lives Matter’s New York chapter on Wednesday said the movement was prepared to “burn down this system” if the U.S. does not work with participants to enact real change.
“If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it,” said Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, during an interview with Fox News.
“This country is built upon violence,” Newsome said, pointing to the American Revolution and modern American diplomacy as examples.
Several city leaders across the country have begun reviewing the training and policies in place at their local police departments, and a handful of officers accused of using excessive or unnecessary force that resulted in the death of a Black individual have been fired.
From Newsome’s perspective, that kind of progress is at odds with the due process claims government and law enforcement leaders made previously as explanations for why quick change was difficult.
“The moment people start destroying property, now cops can be fired automatically.”
“What is this country rewarding?”
“What behavior is it listening to?”
“Obviously not marching,” Newsome said.
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And there it is, people -right before our faces from straight out of the mouth of Hawk Newsome of BLACK LIVES MATTER – “listen up, my Homies, you want the mayor of Albany to cripple her police department, just do some looting and burning in her city and she’ll come crawling on her knees begging for mercy!”
Which is exactly what happened here, and not only that, but she appointed Dorcey Applyrs to conduct a bogus audit of the Albany Police to cast doubt and suspicion on them as a prelude to “reforming” them to make them more criminal friendly.
So Hawk Newsome and BLACK LIVES MATTER won big time here in Albany, New York, and all it took was some lawlessness and violence against the property of others on their part, which is exactly what Hawk Newsome was saying when he said “The moment people start destroying property, now cops can be fired automatically.”
http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/b ... ent-302247
Paul Plante says:
And as we watch this on-going “demonizing” of the Albany, New York Police Department as a hotbed of anti-Black systemic racism and Jim Crow by the administration of Democrat Kathy Sheehan, who herself has taken the knee in an act of surrender and submission to BLACK LIVES MATTER, what we are witnessing here in the violent Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York under mayor Kathy Sheehan is nothing less than a BLACK LIVES MATTER coup, not the sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government we often think of when we hear the word “coup,” but instead, in this case, a highly successful, unexpected stroke, act, or move by BLACK LIVES MATTER to take control of government in the capital city of New York state; a clever action or accomplishment; a brilliant, sudden, and usually highly successful stroke or act on their part, which takes us back to a Newsweek article entitled “BLM Leader: We’ll ‘Burn’ the System Down If U.S. Won’t Give Us What We Want” by Meghan Roos on 6/25/20, where we had a bad-ass BLACK LIVES MATTER dude named Hawk Newsome telling us exactly how that coup came about as follows, to wit:
A leader of Black Lives Matter’s New York chapter on Wednesday said the movement was prepared to “burn down this system” if the U.S. does not work with participants to enact real change.
“If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it,” said Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, during an interview with Fox News.
“This country is built upon violence,” Newsome said, pointing to the American Revolution and modern American diplomacy as examples.
Several city leaders across the country have begun reviewing the training and policies in place at their local police departments, and a handful of officers accused of using excessive or unnecessary force that resulted in the death of a Black individual have been fired.
From Newsome’s perspective, that kind of progress is at odds with the due process claims government and law enforcement leaders made previously as explanations for why quick change was difficult.
“The moment people start destroying property, now cops can be fired automatically.”
“What is this country rewarding?”
“What behavior is it listening to?”
“Obviously not marching,” Newsome said.
end quotes
And there it is, people -right before our faces from straight out of the mouth of Hawk Newsome of BLACK LIVES MATTER – “listen up, my Homies, you want the mayor of Albany to cripple her police department, just do some looting and burning in her city and she’ll come crawling on her knees begging for mercy!”
Which is exactly what happened here, and not only that, but she appointed Dorcey Applyrs to conduct a bogus audit of the Albany Police to cast doubt and suspicion on them as a prelude to “reforming” them to make them more criminal friendly.
So Hawk Newsome and BLACK LIVES MATTER won big time here in Albany, New York, and all it took was some lawlessness and violence against the property of others on their part, which is exactly what Hawk Newsome was saying when he said “The moment people start destroying property, now cops can be fired automatically.”
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 23, 2020 at 9:16 pm
Paul Plante says:
And to see the direction this demonizing of the Albany, New York Police Department by the administration of Democrat Kathy Sheehan as being guilty of systemic racism to appease BLACK LIVES MATTER who want the police emasculated is taking us as a nation and as a people as this BLACK LIVES MATTER movement intrudes further and further into our lives, gaining control of what we can think and what we can say as citizens of this nation, by way of background, let us first go back to an Albany Times Union story entitled “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020, where we were informed as follows, to wit:
Although (Kathy) Sheehan has been mayor of the city (Albany) since 2014, the recent protests in Albany and across the country in the wake of the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer prompted her call for the statue’s removal at a time she believes everyone should embrace the Black Lives Matter movement.
Earlier this month, Sheehan authorized city workers to paint a giant “Black Lives Matter” mural on Lark Street in the Center Square neighborhood.
While a few leaders of Black Lives Movement groups have promoted violence, or have a history of violence themselves, the mayor said it is time for the nation to embrace that cause.
“To me, saying that Black Lives Matter is not a political statement,” she said.
“To me, stating that Black Lives Matter is something that we have to say out loud because of our history.”
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To embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER, of course, is to embrace stupidity, ignorance and outright lies, and to embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER, you have to hate the United States of America, people with skin that is white, stable, law-abiding nuclear families, law and order and rule of law, and that thought takes us to a story in the New York Times entitled “What Happened When a School District Banned Thin Blue Line Flags – Some students in a mostly white New York suburb said the flag made them feel unsafe. Banning it prompted accusations of political bias” by Michael Gold on Nov. 21, 2020 where we have our future with regard to freedom of expression and freedom of thought being spelled out for us in no small detail, as follows:
In late October, administrators in a suburban New York school district told employees that some of their apparel was making students feel uncomfortable, and even threatened.
At issue were masks showing the so-called thin blue line flag, which signals support for the police but which has increasingly been used to display opposition to the Black Lives Matter movement, which rose in opposition to racism in policing.
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Display opposition to BLACK LIVES MATTER after Democrat Kathy Sheehan, the mayor of the violent sanctuary city of Albany, New York, told us we have to embrace the movement?
Perish the thought.
What can America be coming to when people in America are able to openly oppose BLACK LIVES MATTER, which is just so un-American it isn’t even funny?
According to mayor Kathy, we should all be groveling on our knees before BLACK LIVES MATTER, instead, which takes us back to the New York Times for more of our future as a people and as a nation in thrall to BLACK LIVES MATTER, to wit:
Wearing the symbol violated a district policy prohibiting employees from expressing political speech, officials said.
The logo, a black-and-white version of the American flag with a single blue stripe at its center, could no longer be worn by staff members.
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Said another way, being for law and order and rule of law in the United States of America in the age of BLACK LIVES MATTER is now a form of prohibited speech, which takes us back to the New York Times for what is acceptable political speech, to wit:
Days later, a group of employees of the district, in Pelham, N.Y., appeared at work wearing shirts bearing the word “Vote” and the names of Black people who had been killed by the police, prompting accusations of hypocrisy and political bias.
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So, be sure to take notes here, people, so you can stay well over on the side of being politically correct, if you don’t want to find yourself in trouble with the BLACK LIVES MATTER THOUGHT POLICE who are in control of our lives, which again takes us back to the New York Times, to wit:
The resulting controversy has divided Pelham, an affluent and mostly white Westchester County town of about 12,000 people just north of New York City.
The tense debate exemplifies the political tinderbox that much of the United States has become, where an emblem on a mask or a patch on a sleeve can ignite a dispute that consumes a community.
At the center of the conflict is a symbol that has come to mean vastly different things to different people, a black, white and blue Rorschach test whose significance continues to shift amid a continuing national reckoning over racism and police violence.
“It made a lot of people upset here, obviously,” said Ralph DeMasi, a school safety coordinator who was told not to wear the flag.
“Clearly a directive was given.”
“One side followed it, while another side was allowed to express their views.”
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But for BLACK LIVES MATTER to be satisfied, there can only be the one side, which is their side, which is the only politically correct side there is in the matter – embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER or else!
Getting back to the story, we have more as follows:
Facebook discussions have grown heated.
Neighbors staked out clear positions and lined up in the cold to speak at a public meeting.
School employees and parents said they had gotten threatening messages as the district attracted national media attention.
“People are taking this hard line,” said Solange Hansen, a Black and Latina woman who moved to Pelham last year and whose teenage son is a student there.
“All of a sudden, overnight, you see these blue line flags on people’s lawns.”
“You see them in people’s businesses.”
“And that makes it really hard for the people of color.”
end quotes
HUH?
A pro-police flag makes it really hard for the people of color?
How so?
And while we are waiting for that answer which will never come, we have more as follows:
On Friday evening, The Pelham Examiner, a local news outlet, published a letter written by a Pelham high school senior, Nadine LeeSang, that expressed support for the district’s policy and said that the flag reminded students of color of “racist experiences they have had” with law enforcement.
“Nobody was really talking about how students felt uncomfortable, and it was kind of being dismissed,” Ms. LeeSang, 17, who is Black and Asian, said in an interview.
Her letter was signed by 15 other people, most of them also students.
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So, 16 high school students who have had some kind of run-ins with the police get to control what an entire community can think and say?
How democratic!
But the story of our future under BLACK LIVES MATTER does not stop there:
The debate over the flag’s meaning has played out across the country, particularly after the widespread protests this summer over police brutality and systemic racism.
An Ohio school district banned it after a football player displayed it before a game; a school in another Ohio district suspended students for carrying it onto the field.
There were opposing rallies in a Massachusetts town where officials ordered the flag removed from fire trucks.
Those who support the flag say it has long been used to honor law enforcement officers who sacrificed their lives, and that it is not meant as a political statement.
“It signifies a memorial, a connection between officers killed in the line of duty and those who continue with their duties in the present,” said Carla Caccavale, a Pelham resident who has four children enrolled in district schools and whose father, a New York City Transit detective, was killed while trying to stop a robbery when Ms. Caccavale was an infant.
Ms. Caccavale has made sweatshirts honoring her father’s memory that include a thin blue line patch.
Although she initially made them only for her family and another family, she has begun to sell them to support police-related charities.
When school staff members were told they could no longer wear the flag, her sweatshirts were included in the ban.
She said the decision baffled her.
“You have to look at the intention of the sweatshirts,” she said.
But supporters of the district’s ban on the flag said the logo could not be divorced from its current context as a symbol for the pro-police Blue Lives Matter movement that sprang up in response to the Black Lives Matter movement.
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The pro-police Blue Lives Matter movement sprang up in response to the Black Lives Matter movement?
Wouldn’t that then make the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement anti-police?
And of course it would, which again takes us back to the story as follows:
But the ban on Ms. Caccavale’s sweatshirts provoked a ferocious letter from the president of the Detectives’ Endowment Association, a New York City police union, who accused Cheryl Champ, the district’s superintendent, of “perverting views” of students and turning them into “cop-haters.”
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And well said, because that is exactly what she has done, which is the same thing Kathy Sheehan of Albany is doing with her talk of embracing the ignorance and racial hate that is the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement – perverting the views of students and turning them into cop-haters, which really does not bode well for our future as a nation when you think about it.
And they wonder why the people of America are buying guns and stocking up on plenty of ammo.
Go figure.
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Paul Plante says:
And to see the direction this demonizing of the Albany, New York Police Department by the administration of Democrat Kathy Sheehan as being guilty of systemic racism to appease BLACK LIVES MATTER who want the police emasculated is taking us as a nation and as a people as this BLACK LIVES MATTER movement intrudes further and further into our lives, gaining control of what we can think and what we can say as citizens of this nation, by way of background, let us first go back to an Albany Times Union story entitled “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020, where we were informed as follows, to wit:
Although (Kathy) Sheehan has been mayor of the city (Albany) since 2014, the recent protests in Albany and across the country in the wake of the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer prompted her call for the statue’s removal at a time she believes everyone should embrace the Black Lives Matter movement.
Earlier this month, Sheehan authorized city workers to paint a giant “Black Lives Matter” mural on Lark Street in the Center Square neighborhood.
While a few leaders of Black Lives Movement groups have promoted violence, or have a history of violence themselves, the mayor said it is time for the nation to embrace that cause.
“To me, saying that Black Lives Matter is not a political statement,” she said.
“To me, stating that Black Lives Matter is something that we have to say out loud because of our history.”
end quotes
To embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER, of course, is to embrace stupidity, ignorance and outright lies, and to embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER, you have to hate the United States of America, people with skin that is white, stable, law-abiding nuclear families, law and order and rule of law, and that thought takes us to a story in the New York Times entitled “What Happened When a School District Banned Thin Blue Line Flags – Some students in a mostly white New York suburb said the flag made them feel unsafe. Banning it prompted accusations of political bias” by Michael Gold on Nov. 21, 2020 where we have our future with regard to freedom of expression and freedom of thought being spelled out for us in no small detail, as follows:
In late October, administrators in a suburban New York school district told employees that some of their apparel was making students feel uncomfortable, and even threatened.
At issue were masks showing the so-called thin blue line flag, which signals support for the police but which has increasingly been used to display opposition to the Black Lives Matter movement, which rose in opposition to racism in policing.
end quotes
Display opposition to BLACK LIVES MATTER after Democrat Kathy Sheehan, the mayor of the violent sanctuary city of Albany, New York, told us we have to embrace the movement?
Perish the thought.
What can America be coming to when people in America are able to openly oppose BLACK LIVES MATTER, which is just so un-American it isn’t even funny?
According to mayor Kathy, we should all be groveling on our knees before BLACK LIVES MATTER, instead, which takes us back to the New York Times for more of our future as a people and as a nation in thrall to BLACK LIVES MATTER, to wit:
Wearing the symbol violated a district policy prohibiting employees from expressing political speech, officials said.
The logo, a black-and-white version of the American flag with a single blue stripe at its center, could no longer be worn by staff members.
end quotes
Said another way, being for law and order and rule of law in the United States of America in the age of BLACK LIVES MATTER is now a form of prohibited speech, which takes us back to the New York Times for what is acceptable political speech, to wit:
Days later, a group of employees of the district, in Pelham, N.Y., appeared at work wearing shirts bearing the word “Vote” and the names of Black people who had been killed by the police, prompting accusations of hypocrisy and political bias.
end quotes
So, be sure to take notes here, people, so you can stay well over on the side of being politically correct, if you don’t want to find yourself in trouble with the BLACK LIVES MATTER THOUGHT POLICE who are in control of our lives, which again takes us back to the New York Times, to wit:
The resulting controversy has divided Pelham, an affluent and mostly white Westchester County town of about 12,000 people just north of New York City.
The tense debate exemplifies the political tinderbox that much of the United States has become, where an emblem on a mask or a patch on a sleeve can ignite a dispute that consumes a community.
At the center of the conflict is a symbol that has come to mean vastly different things to different people, a black, white and blue Rorschach test whose significance continues to shift amid a continuing national reckoning over racism and police violence.
“It made a lot of people upset here, obviously,” said Ralph DeMasi, a school safety coordinator who was told not to wear the flag.
“Clearly a directive was given.”
“One side followed it, while another side was allowed to express their views.”
end quotes
But for BLACK LIVES MATTER to be satisfied, there can only be the one side, which is their side, which is the only politically correct side there is in the matter – embrace BLACK LIVES MATTER or else!
Getting back to the story, we have more as follows:
Facebook discussions have grown heated.
Neighbors staked out clear positions and lined up in the cold to speak at a public meeting.
School employees and parents said they had gotten threatening messages as the district attracted national media attention.
“People are taking this hard line,” said Solange Hansen, a Black and Latina woman who moved to Pelham last year and whose teenage son is a student there.
“All of a sudden, overnight, you see these blue line flags on people’s lawns.”
“You see them in people’s businesses.”
“And that makes it really hard for the people of color.”
end quotes
HUH?
A pro-police flag makes it really hard for the people of color?
How so?
And while we are waiting for that answer which will never come, we have more as follows:
On Friday evening, The Pelham Examiner, a local news outlet, published a letter written by a Pelham high school senior, Nadine LeeSang, that expressed support for the district’s policy and said that the flag reminded students of color of “racist experiences they have had” with law enforcement.
“Nobody was really talking about how students felt uncomfortable, and it was kind of being dismissed,” Ms. LeeSang, 17, who is Black and Asian, said in an interview.
Her letter was signed by 15 other people, most of them also students.
end quotes
So, 16 high school students who have had some kind of run-ins with the police get to control what an entire community can think and say?
How democratic!
But the story of our future under BLACK LIVES MATTER does not stop there:
The debate over the flag’s meaning has played out across the country, particularly after the widespread protests this summer over police brutality and systemic racism.
An Ohio school district banned it after a football player displayed it before a game; a school in another Ohio district suspended students for carrying it onto the field.
There were opposing rallies in a Massachusetts town where officials ordered the flag removed from fire trucks.
Those who support the flag say it has long been used to honor law enforcement officers who sacrificed their lives, and that it is not meant as a political statement.
“It signifies a memorial, a connection between officers killed in the line of duty and those who continue with their duties in the present,” said Carla Caccavale, a Pelham resident who has four children enrolled in district schools and whose father, a New York City Transit detective, was killed while trying to stop a robbery when Ms. Caccavale was an infant.
Ms. Caccavale has made sweatshirts honoring her father’s memory that include a thin blue line patch.
Although she initially made them only for her family and another family, she has begun to sell them to support police-related charities.
When school staff members were told they could no longer wear the flag, her sweatshirts were included in the ban.
She said the decision baffled her.
“You have to look at the intention of the sweatshirts,” she said.
But supporters of the district’s ban on the flag said the logo could not be divorced from its current context as a symbol for the pro-police Blue Lives Matter movement that sprang up in response to the Black Lives Matter movement.
end quotes
The pro-police Blue Lives Matter movement sprang up in response to the Black Lives Matter movement?
Wouldn’t that then make the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement anti-police?
And of course it would, which again takes us back to the story as follows:
But the ban on Ms. Caccavale’s sweatshirts provoked a ferocious letter from the president of the Detectives’ Endowment Association, a New York City police union, who accused Cheryl Champ, the district’s superintendent, of “perverting views” of students and turning them into “cop-haters.”
end quotes
And well said, because that is exactly what she has done, which is the same thing Kathy Sheehan of Albany is doing with her talk of embracing the ignorance and racial hate that is the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement – perverting the views of students and turning them into cop-haters, which really does not bode well for our future as a nation when you think about it.
And they wonder why the people of America are buying guns and stocking up on plenty of ammo.
Go figure.
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 24, 2020 at 10:31 pm
Paul Plante says:
And as we consider this effort by Democrat Kathy Sheehan, mayor of the violent sanctuary city of Albany, New York, to appease the Marxist-inspired BLACK LIVES MATTER movement which sees the use of violence as a potent political tool, which for them it is, by her demonizing the Albany Police Department by depicting it as a hotbed of systemic racism so that it can be “reformed” to make it more criminal-friendly, and thus, by emasculating it, making it much less of a threat to the criminals in Albany, before we go to http://www.marxists.org, the Marxist website known as Marxists Internet Archive (also known as MIA or Marxists.org), a non-profit online encyclopedia that hosts a multilingual library (created in 1990) of the works of communist, anarchist, and socialist writers, such as Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg, Che Guevara, Mikhail Bakunin, and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, where we interestingly come across the “Second Treatise of Civil Government” by John Locke in 1690, CHAP. III. Of the State of War, a political treatise as to why it is we have what is called “civil society” in this country, which civil society would include organizations like the Albany Police, let us first go back to a Times Union story entitled “Activists urge city to take stronger stance on police reform” by Steve Hughes on Nov. 6, 2020, for relevant background as follows, to wit:
ALBANY — Dozens of residents and activists spoke out about their concerns with the city’s police reform process Friday night.
Standing on the sidewalk on Second Street outside of VanRennselaer Park in Arbor Hill, they said the city’s plan moved too slowly and that they did not believe it would bring about meaningful change in how the police department and community members viewed each other.
The entire way the city approaches policing has to be changed, said organizer Shawn Young, co-founder of All of Us.
“It’s about transformation, it’s about tearing down what we have now and building something better,” he said.
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For the record, this Shawn Young who wants to tear down the Albany Police Department is a Black dude https://www.mediasanctuary.org/podcasts ... ty-action/ who says in his podcasts that he is fighting for “racial justice,” which is his reason for tearing down the Albany Police and “building something better,” without telling us exactly what that might be, although it does conjure up images of armed Black Panthers lining the hallways to Kathy Sheehan’s office in Albany City Hall with its large, intimidating BLACK LIVES MATTER banner flying over the entrance to Albany City Hall to denote it as BLACK LIVES MATTER turf where people with white skin had better tread carefully.
For those too young to remember the Black Panthers, the Black Panther Party for Self Defense was founded in October 1966 by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale who had met at Merritt College in Oakland, California.
Dedicated to revolutionary internationalism and armed self-defense of Black communities, the Panthers initially operated in Oakland and Berkeley then in San Francisco and Richmond and in May 1967, the organization gained world-wide media attention when Seale led a contingent of heavily armed Panthers into the California state capital in Sacramento to demonstrate their opposition to a proposed law that would restrict the right to carry loaded weapons on city streets.
Created, in Newton’s words, “to serve the needs of the oppressed people in our communities and defend them against their oppressors,” the Panthers patrolled black areas of Oakland with visible, loaded firearms — at the time in accordance with the law — to monitor police actions involving blacks.
In October 1967, Newton was wounded in a gun battle with police and charged with killing an officer.
His three-year incarceration became a cause célèbre for many young African Americans and chapters of the Party rapidly opened throughout the country.
So that we can understand how this history is relevant to the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement today, and their push to defund the police in this country, before we consider Locke, who told us in the Second Treatise that “Men living together according to reason, without a common superior on earth, with authority to judge between them, is properly the state of nature; but force, or a declared design of force, upon the person of another, where there is no common superior on earth to appeal to for relief, is the state of war: and it is the want of such an appeal gives a man the right of war even against an aggressor, tho’ he be in society and a fellow subject,” which is where this Shawn Young of All Of Us is taking us with his talk of doing away with the Albany Police, in testimony before Congress, a former managing editor of the Party’s newspaper discussed the group and debated the meaning of a slogan and a gruesome cartoon:
Mr. PREYER. It is an objective of this hearing to develop information on the activities and objectives of the national office of the Black Panther Party. We are particularly interested in whether the statements and pronouncements of revolutionary violence which emanate from national leaders or are printed in the Black Panther Party newspaper are intended as mere rhetoric or the advocacy of a recommended course of revolutionary action. . . .
During the 10-year period, 1960–1969, there were 561 law enforcement officers feloniously murdered while protecting life and property. In 1969, the last year for which complete statistics are available, there were 35,202 assaults on police officers, 11,949 resulting in injury. Eighty-six police officers, a 34-percent increase over 1968, were killed. While there are no complete statistics for 1970, the trend, if anything, would appear to be increasing. News accounts have alleged that certain of these killings and assaults have resulted from Panther activities. Statements by Panther leaders and remarks in their newspaper would seem to leave little doubt that the Panthers attempt to encourage physical attacks on police.
There are at present at least 10 bills pending before the House and 3 before the Senate which would make it a Federal offense to kill or assault a State or local policeman or fireman. . . .
TESTIMONY OF FRANK BENSON JONES
Mr. ROMINES. Mr. Jones, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Black Panther Party?
Mr. JONES. Yes, I have been but I am not now.
Mr. ROMINES. When did you join the Black Panther Party?
Mr. JONES. The date is a little difficult; I can’t give you an exact date, sometime in May or June of 1968.
Mr. ROMINES. Why did you join the party?
Mr. JONES. In Oakland, California.
Mr. ROMINES. Why did you join the party?
Mr. JONES. I thought the Black Panther Party was doing something that needed to be done. They were opposing racism, and I felt that because racism was a problem in the United States that the party was serving the necessary need.
Mr. ROMINES. Why would you have selected the Black Panther Party over certain other organizations which were in existence at the time?
Mr. JONES. Well, the other organizations that I knew of had been in existence for quite a while and the problem still existed. The Black Panther Party was new and I thought maybe a new approach might solve the problem.
Mr. ROMINES. Did the Black Panther Party have any approach that you saw at that time which you thought was perhaps going to be more advantageous or beneficial?
Mr. JONES. Yes, taking the stance that we were entitled to and have the right of self-defense as opposed to nonviolence.
Mr. ROMINES. When did you leave the Black Panther Party?
Mr. JONES. Approximately a year later, probably May or June, probably May of 1969.
Mr. ROMINES. For what reason did you leave the party?
Mr. JONES. Basically, primarily because I think the party had changed its emphasis and was no longer emphasizing racism as the problem to be combated and I felt that was where I wanted to continue to place my emphasis.
Mr. ROMINES. You indicated a change in emphasis, which would at least infer a change from an emphasis on racism to an emphasis on something else? What would that something else have been?
Mr. JONES. The party started to oppose capitalism, saying that was the primary problem.
Mr. ROMINES. And you thought that was incorrect?
Mr. JONES. Yes. . . .
********
Mr. ROMINES. Was there any discussion in the classes of the term “revolution”?
Mr. JONES. Yes.
Mr. ROMINES. What was the discussion in terms of revolution?
Mr. JONES. In terms of revolution, that there needed to be some changes made, as I said, in the law and in the application of the law in the United States.
Mr. ROMINES. Does the Black Panther Party encourage members of the black community to possess weapons?
Mr. JONES. Yes.
Mr. ROMINES. Why?
Mr. JONES. For self-defense. The Black Panther Party, when I joined, was entitled the “Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.” That title was chosen because of the activities of police officers in the city of Oakland, primarily. They often showed disrespect for the homes and persons of people in the black community. The Black Panther Party was instituted with the intention of instilling in the black people in that area their right to defend their homes and the necessity of doing so.
Mr. ROMINES. Is the Black Panther Party still known as the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense?
Mr. JONES. No, it isn’t.
Mr. ROMINES. The term “for Self-Defense” has been dropped; is that correct?
Mr. JONES. Yes, it has.
Mr. ROMINES. Do you know why the term has been dropped?
Mr. JONES. I was told the reason it was dropped was to cancel out this impression that many people have of the party that it was a paramilitary organization, and they wanted to adopt the posture of being more political than military. Self-defense implies a military type action. . . .
Mr. ROMINES. Does the Black Panther Party differentiate at all between black and white policemen?
Mr. JONES. Not on that basis, no. I think they differentiate between good and bad policemen.
Mr. ROMINES. The vast majority of the cartoons that I have seen depict white policemen.
Mr. JONES. I don’t think so; I think the vast majority would depict a pig dressed in a policeman’s uniform.
Mr. ROMINES. And no intent on the part of the Panther Party to say this is a white policeman?
Mr. JONES. No.
Mr. ROMINES. What, Mr. Jones, in your opinion, is the purpose of the cartoons?
Mr. JONES. I consider them sort of political satire. How often I have had to explain this before and I often use the analogy of, say, a political cartoon stating, “Stamp out litter bugs.” You might see a giant shoe about to smash a bug, but that in no sense means that you are to kill the next guy you see throw paper on the streets, you know. This is the way the cartoons in the Black Panther paper are used. There has been some discussion about how this affects people, and I often say the way the cartoon effects a person is dependent upon their psychological bent.
Mr. ROMINES. Let’s back up and go at it first of all from the way they are intended. You say as a political satire?
Mr. JONES. Yes.
Mr. Romines. You use your analogy, but tell me exactly what you think they are trying to satirize.
Mr. JONES. I think they are saying that policemen who don’t conduct themselves as police officers and who engage in criminal activity in the black community could be removed from the black community.
Mr. ASHBROOK. Is that really the case? I have in front of me a cartoon which shows, as you pointed out, a police officer depicted as a pig, and I suppose what they refer to as one of the brothers stabbing him in the back with all kinds of blood oozing out. And it says underneath it, “The only good pig, is a dead pig.” There isn’t any real way you could construe that into being a satire or being a commentary. That is about as definite as one could be. “The only good pig, is a dead pig,” and here it is in the so-called Black Panther Coloring Book. How could that be construed to be satire in the context of what you have just said, that it is all in the mind of a person? What possible connotation could there be in the mind of a beholder that would not be violence prone, murder prone or in a sense opening up a dialogue. That is what I gather from your statement, but it is not borne out by some phenomena.
Mr. JONES. Is that from the Black Panther paper?
Mr. ASHBROOK. It is from the Black Panther Coloring Book.
Mr. JONES. Some of those cartoons may have been used in the paper. But to answer your question, you said that the caption states that the only good pig is a dead pig. Then you have to decline what is meant by “pig.” If pig is intended to be or if you believe that a pig is a policeman who conducts himself improperly and in a criminal manner in a black community or in any community, then I would like for you to tell me how you could ever call this person, if he is alive, indeed a good policeman, you see.
Mr. ASHBROOK. That is not what it says. It says the only good pig is a dead pig.
Mr. JONES. That is right, because a pig would be the pig who was most criminal, you see what I mean? Either the pig who is going to come in and brutalize people—
Mr. ASHBROOK. Up is down, fair is foul, in is out.
*****
Mr. PREYER. Let me ask you one final question. We have been trying to determine whether the Panthers are a revolutionary group or whether they are really reformists. Yesterday the testimony we had came down strong on the side that they were really a revolutionary group. I would gather that you would agree with this statement. This is from an article in The Washington Post by Bernard D. Nossiter. He has been talking about the Black Panther Revolutionary People’s Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia recently. He says—
the Panthers are reformers, not radicals. For all their talk, and sporadic use of guns, for all the repetition of “proletariat” and “oppression,” their vision is not—or at least not yet—one in which an underclass forcibly seizes power from a ruling class. Rather, they seek a society more congruent with the vision they heard in grade school, one that offers to blacks “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
I take it you would agree with this?
Mr. JONES. In a sense I do. I would again like to deal with the words “reform” and “revolution.” The only difference I see in the two is the time span involved. Reform, of course, might take place over a long period of time and revolution implies an immediate change. The past history of the Panthers has indicated that they are, in fact, reformist because there has been no real confrontation on a class basis or a race basis. So I would agree they are reformers, yes.
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See Also: “We Must Destroy the Capitalistic System Which Enslaves Us”: Stokely Carmichael Advocates Black Revolution http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6461
Getting back to Locke and his role in this discussion which is about the role Black folks play in American society today as opposed to last month, or last year, or in the last century, the so-called Founding Fathers of this country drew heavily upon English philosopher John Locke in establishing America’s First Principles, most notably the Social Compact, which takes us back to the Second Treatise, where Locke states thusly:
“THE state of war is a state of enmity and destruction: and therefore declaring by word or action, not a passionate and hasty, but a sedate settled design upon another man’s life, puts him in a state of war with him against whom he has declared such an intention, and so has exposed his life to the other’s power to be taken away by him, or any one that joins with him in his defence, and espouses his quarrel; it being reasonable and just, I should have a right to destroy that which threatens me with destruction: for, by the fundamental law of nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred: and one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion; because such men are not under the ties of the commonlaw of reason, have no other rule, but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as beasts of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures, that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power.”
As Locke is making incandescently clear with that passage, there is where we all go back to when we no longer have civil society and the police to fall back on – one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion; because such men are not under the ties of the commonlaw of reason, have no other rule, but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as beasts of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures, that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power.
Does Shawn Young really want to take us back to there?
Stay tuned, more is yet to come.
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Paul Plante says:
And as we consider this effort by Democrat Kathy Sheehan, mayor of the violent sanctuary city of Albany, New York, to appease the Marxist-inspired BLACK LIVES MATTER movement which sees the use of violence as a potent political tool, which for them it is, by her demonizing the Albany Police Department by depicting it as a hotbed of systemic racism so that it can be “reformed” to make it more criminal-friendly, and thus, by emasculating it, making it much less of a threat to the criminals in Albany, before we go to http://www.marxists.org, the Marxist website known as Marxists Internet Archive (also known as MIA or Marxists.org), a non-profit online encyclopedia that hosts a multilingual library (created in 1990) of the works of communist, anarchist, and socialist writers, such as Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg, Che Guevara, Mikhail Bakunin, and Pierre-Joseph Proudhon, where we interestingly come across the “Second Treatise of Civil Government” by John Locke in 1690, CHAP. III. Of the State of War, a political treatise as to why it is we have what is called “civil society” in this country, which civil society would include organizations like the Albany Police, let us first go back to a Times Union story entitled “Activists urge city to take stronger stance on police reform” by Steve Hughes on Nov. 6, 2020, for relevant background as follows, to wit:
ALBANY — Dozens of residents and activists spoke out about their concerns with the city’s police reform process Friday night.
Standing on the sidewalk on Second Street outside of VanRennselaer Park in Arbor Hill, they said the city’s plan moved too slowly and that they did not believe it would bring about meaningful change in how the police department and community members viewed each other.
The entire way the city approaches policing has to be changed, said organizer Shawn Young, co-founder of All of Us.
“It’s about transformation, it’s about tearing down what we have now and building something better,” he said.
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For the record, this Shawn Young who wants to tear down the Albany Police Department is a Black dude https://www.mediasanctuary.org/podcasts ... ty-action/ who says in his podcasts that he is fighting for “racial justice,” which is his reason for tearing down the Albany Police and “building something better,” without telling us exactly what that might be, although it does conjure up images of armed Black Panthers lining the hallways to Kathy Sheehan’s office in Albany City Hall with its large, intimidating BLACK LIVES MATTER banner flying over the entrance to Albany City Hall to denote it as BLACK LIVES MATTER turf where people with white skin had better tread carefully.
For those too young to remember the Black Panthers, the Black Panther Party for Self Defense was founded in October 1966 by Huey Newton and Bobby Seale who had met at Merritt College in Oakland, California.
Dedicated to revolutionary internationalism and armed self-defense of Black communities, the Panthers initially operated in Oakland and Berkeley then in San Francisco and Richmond and in May 1967, the organization gained world-wide media attention when Seale led a contingent of heavily armed Panthers into the California state capital in Sacramento to demonstrate their opposition to a proposed law that would restrict the right to carry loaded weapons on city streets.
Created, in Newton’s words, “to serve the needs of the oppressed people in our communities and defend them against their oppressors,” the Panthers patrolled black areas of Oakland with visible, loaded firearms — at the time in accordance with the law — to monitor police actions involving blacks.
In October 1967, Newton was wounded in a gun battle with police and charged with killing an officer.
His three-year incarceration became a cause célèbre for many young African Americans and chapters of the Party rapidly opened throughout the country.
So that we can understand how this history is relevant to the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement today, and their push to defund the police in this country, before we consider Locke, who told us in the Second Treatise that “Men living together according to reason, without a common superior on earth, with authority to judge between them, is properly the state of nature; but force, or a declared design of force, upon the person of another, where there is no common superior on earth to appeal to for relief, is the state of war: and it is the want of such an appeal gives a man the right of war even against an aggressor, tho’ he be in society and a fellow subject,” which is where this Shawn Young of All Of Us is taking us with his talk of doing away with the Albany Police, in testimony before Congress, a former managing editor of the Party’s newspaper discussed the group and debated the meaning of a slogan and a gruesome cartoon:
Mr. PREYER. It is an objective of this hearing to develop information on the activities and objectives of the national office of the Black Panther Party. We are particularly interested in whether the statements and pronouncements of revolutionary violence which emanate from national leaders or are printed in the Black Panther Party newspaper are intended as mere rhetoric or the advocacy of a recommended course of revolutionary action. . . .
During the 10-year period, 1960–1969, there were 561 law enforcement officers feloniously murdered while protecting life and property. In 1969, the last year for which complete statistics are available, there were 35,202 assaults on police officers, 11,949 resulting in injury. Eighty-six police officers, a 34-percent increase over 1968, were killed. While there are no complete statistics for 1970, the trend, if anything, would appear to be increasing. News accounts have alleged that certain of these killings and assaults have resulted from Panther activities. Statements by Panther leaders and remarks in their newspaper would seem to leave little doubt that the Panthers attempt to encourage physical attacks on police.
There are at present at least 10 bills pending before the House and 3 before the Senate which would make it a Federal offense to kill or assault a State or local policeman or fireman. . . .
TESTIMONY OF FRANK BENSON JONES
Mr. ROMINES. Mr. Jones, are you now or have you ever been a member of the Black Panther Party?
Mr. JONES. Yes, I have been but I am not now.
Mr. ROMINES. When did you join the Black Panther Party?
Mr. JONES. The date is a little difficult; I can’t give you an exact date, sometime in May or June of 1968.
Mr. ROMINES. Why did you join the party?
Mr. JONES. In Oakland, California.
Mr. ROMINES. Why did you join the party?
Mr. JONES. I thought the Black Panther Party was doing something that needed to be done. They were opposing racism, and I felt that because racism was a problem in the United States that the party was serving the necessary need.
Mr. ROMINES. Why would you have selected the Black Panther Party over certain other organizations which were in existence at the time?
Mr. JONES. Well, the other organizations that I knew of had been in existence for quite a while and the problem still existed. The Black Panther Party was new and I thought maybe a new approach might solve the problem.
Mr. ROMINES. Did the Black Panther Party have any approach that you saw at that time which you thought was perhaps going to be more advantageous or beneficial?
Mr. JONES. Yes, taking the stance that we were entitled to and have the right of self-defense as opposed to nonviolence.
Mr. ROMINES. When did you leave the Black Panther Party?
Mr. JONES. Approximately a year later, probably May or June, probably May of 1969.
Mr. ROMINES. For what reason did you leave the party?
Mr. JONES. Basically, primarily because I think the party had changed its emphasis and was no longer emphasizing racism as the problem to be combated and I felt that was where I wanted to continue to place my emphasis.
Mr. ROMINES. You indicated a change in emphasis, which would at least infer a change from an emphasis on racism to an emphasis on something else? What would that something else have been?
Mr. JONES. The party started to oppose capitalism, saying that was the primary problem.
Mr. ROMINES. And you thought that was incorrect?
Mr. JONES. Yes. . . .
********
Mr. ROMINES. Was there any discussion in the classes of the term “revolution”?
Mr. JONES. Yes.
Mr. ROMINES. What was the discussion in terms of revolution?
Mr. JONES. In terms of revolution, that there needed to be some changes made, as I said, in the law and in the application of the law in the United States.
Mr. ROMINES. Does the Black Panther Party encourage members of the black community to possess weapons?
Mr. JONES. Yes.
Mr. ROMINES. Why?
Mr. JONES. For self-defense. The Black Panther Party, when I joined, was entitled the “Black Panther Party for Self-Defense.” That title was chosen because of the activities of police officers in the city of Oakland, primarily. They often showed disrespect for the homes and persons of people in the black community. The Black Panther Party was instituted with the intention of instilling in the black people in that area their right to defend their homes and the necessity of doing so.
Mr. ROMINES. Is the Black Panther Party still known as the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense?
Mr. JONES. No, it isn’t.
Mr. ROMINES. The term “for Self-Defense” has been dropped; is that correct?
Mr. JONES. Yes, it has.
Mr. ROMINES. Do you know why the term has been dropped?
Mr. JONES. I was told the reason it was dropped was to cancel out this impression that many people have of the party that it was a paramilitary organization, and they wanted to adopt the posture of being more political than military. Self-defense implies a military type action. . . .
Mr. ROMINES. Does the Black Panther Party differentiate at all between black and white policemen?
Mr. JONES. Not on that basis, no. I think they differentiate between good and bad policemen.
Mr. ROMINES. The vast majority of the cartoons that I have seen depict white policemen.
Mr. JONES. I don’t think so; I think the vast majority would depict a pig dressed in a policeman’s uniform.
Mr. ROMINES. And no intent on the part of the Panther Party to say this is a white policeman?
Mr. JONES. No.
Mr. ROMINES. What, Mr. Jones, in your opinion, is the purpose of the cartoons?
Mr. JONES. I consider them sort of political satire. How often I have had to explain this before and I often use the analogy of, say, a political cartoon stating, “Stamp out litter bugs.” You might see a giant shoe about to smash a bug, but that in no sense means that you are to kill the next guy you see throw paper on the streets, you know. This is the way the cartoons in the Black Panther paper are used. There has been some discussion about how this affects people, and I often say the way the cartoon effects a person is dependent upon their psychological bent.
Mr. ROMINES. Let’s back up and go at it first of all from the way they are intended. You say as a political satire?
Mr. JONES. Yes.
Mr. Romines. You use your analogy, but tell me exactly what you think they are trying to satirize.
Mr. JONES. I think they are saying that policemen who don’t conduct themselves as police officers and who engage in criminal activity in the black community could be removed from the black community.
Mr. ASHBROOK. Is that really the case? I have in front of me a cartoon which shows, as you pointed out, a police officer depicted as a pig, and I suppose what they refer to as one of the brothers stabbing him in the back with all kinds of blood oozing out. And it says underneath it, “The only good pig, is a dead pig.” There isn’t any real way you could construe that into being a satire or being a commentary. That is about as definite as one could be. “The only good pig, is a dead pig,” and here it is in the so-called Black Panther Coloring Book. How could that be construed to be satire in the context of what you have just said, that it is all in the mind of a person? What possible connotation could there be in the mind of a beholder that would not be violence prone, murder prone or in a sense opening up a dialogue. That is what I gather from your statement, but it is not borne out by some phenomena.
Mr. JONES. Is that from the Black Panther paper?
Mr. ASHBROOK. It is from the Black Panther Coloring Book.
Mr. JONES. Some of those cartoons may have been used in the paper. But to answer your question, you said that the caption states that the only good pig is a dead pig. Then you have to decline what is meant by “pig.” If pig is intended to be or if you believe that a pig is a policeman who conducts himself improperly and in a criminal manner in a black community or in any community, then I would like for you to tell me how you could ever call this person, if he is alive, indeed a good policeman, you see.
Mr. ASHBROOK. That is not what it says. It says the only good pig is a dead pig.
Mr. JONES. That is right, because a pig would be the pig who was most criminal, you see what I mean? Either the pig who is going to come in and brutalize people—
Mr. ASHBROOK. Up is down, fair is foul, in is out.
*****
Mr. PREYER. Let me ask you one final question. We have been trying to determine whether the Panthers are a revolutionary group or whether they are really reformists. Yesterday the testimony we had came down strong on the side that they were really a revolutionary group. I would gather that you would agree with this statement. This is from an article in The Washington Post by Bernard D. Nossiter. He has been talking about the Black Panther Revolutionary People’s Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia recently. He says—
the Panthers are reformers, not radicals. For all their talk, and sporadic use of guns, for all the repetition of “proletariat” and “oppression,” their vision is not—or at least not yet—one in which an underclass forcibly seizes power from a ruling class. Rather, they seek a society more congruent with the vision they heard in grade school, one that offers to blacks “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
I take it you would agree with this?
Mr. JONES. In a sense I do. I would again like to deal with the words “reform” and “revolution.” The only difference I see in the two is the time span involved. Reform, of course, might take place over a long period of time and revolution implies an immediate change. The past history of the Panthers has indicated that they are, in fact, reformist because there has been no real confrontation on a class basis or a race basis. So I would agree they are reformers, yes.
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See Also: “We Must Destroy the Capitalistic System Which Enslaves Us”: Stokely Carmichael Advocates Black Revolution http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6461
Getting back to Locke and his role in this discussion which is about the role Black folks play in American society today as opposed to last month, or last year, or in the last century, the so-called Founding Fathers of this country drew heavily upon English philosopher John Locke in establishing America’s First Principles, most notably the Social Compact, which takes us back to the Second Treatise, where Locke states thusly:
“THE state of war is a state of enmity and destruction: and therefore declaring by word or action, not a passionate and hasty, but a sedate settled design upon another man’s life, puts him in a state of war with him against whom he has declared such an intention, and so has exposed his life to the other’s power to be taken away by him, or any one that joins with him in his defence, and espouses his quarrel; it being reasonable and just, I should have a right to destroy that which threatens me with destruction: for, by the fundamental law of nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred: and one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion; because such men are not under the ties of the commonlaw of reason, have no other rule, but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as beasts of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures, that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power.”
As Locke is making incandescently clear with that passage, there is where we all go back to when we no longer have civil society and the police to fall back on – one may destroy a man who makes war upon him, or has discovered an enmity to his being, for the same reason that he may kill a wolf or a lion; because such men are not under the ties of the commonlaw of reason, have no other rule, but that of force and violence, and so may be treated as beasts of prey, those dangerous and noxious creatures, that will be sure to destroy him whenever he falls into their power.
Does Shawn Young really want to take us back to there?
Stay tuned, more is yet to come.
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 30, 2020 at 12:00 am
Paul Plante says:
So, by way of review in here with respect to this one-sided conversation with this BLACK LIVES MATTER bull**** being jammed down our throats here in America, as we hear over and over about “systemic racism,” a bull**** term invented by the BLACK POWER MOVEMENT to justify the use of violence against people with white skin who they consider their enemies, being biased against people with white skin as they are, let’s first go back to a POLITIFACT article entitled “Is Black Lives Matter a Marxist movement?” by Tom Kertscher on July 21, 2020, where we had as follows, to wit:
Included on its list of beliefs is one that has drawn criticism as being consistent with Marxism:
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”
A spokesperson for Black Lives Matter; Kailee Scales, managing director at Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation; and the three co-founders did not reply to our requests for information.
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Now, why does anyone think that is, that Kailee Scales, managing director at Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation; and the three co-founders did not reply to POLITIFACTS’ requests for information?
And the answer quite simply is that lack of a response by BLACK LIVES MATTER to POLITIFACT is because they are indoctrinated with Marxist dogma, and thus they lack critical thinking skills, and lacking critical thinking skills because of being “trained Marxists,” with the emphasis on the word “trained,” they cannot rationally explain themselves beyond spouting ignorant Marxist dogma.
And that reality about being indoctrinated on dogma takes us back beyond the statement of mayor Kathy of Albany in the Times Union story “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020 where she was quoted as saying “(T)o me, stating that Black Lives Matter is something that we have to say out loud because of our history,” where we will never know exactly what history she is talking about, because she hasn’t a clue herself, to an article in the Daily Mail six (6) years ago on 20 August 2014 where we were informed that shortly after taking office in February 2009, Eric Himpton Holder, Jr, a Democrat Black man who was Democrat Hussein Obama’s top law enforcement officer, called the United States ‘a nation of cowards’ when it comes to talking about race, in a Black History Month speech, where only Black people were in attendance.
Now, think about that statement in the light of this thread alone, where the top law enforcement officer under Hussein Obama, a Black man, was calling a nation of some 328 million people, or 250,264,000 white people, a “NATION OF COWARDS,” that in a forum where white people were not allowed and thus, did not have a voice in the conversation, which would seem to indicate the real coward was Eric Himpton Holder, Jr., himself.
According to the news media, in a segregated town hall meeting Himpton Holder, Jr. held in Ferguson, Missouri that was closed so no “white” viewpoints could be expressed, Himpton Holder, Jr. said to the segregated audience present that “(W)e need concrete action to change things in this country,” and “(S)o this interaction must occur,” and “‘(T)his dialogue is important,” and “(B)ut it can’t simply be that we have a conversation that begins based on what happens on August 9, and ends sometime in December, and nothing happens.”
Except there was no “conversation” then, and there hasn’t been one since, precisely because the Himpton Holder and BLACK LIVES MATTER crowd cannot hold a rational conversation on the subject, having nothing but the same old racially-motivated garbage to spew, over and over again, which gets quite tedious and irksome, and that in turn takes us to a podcast by something calling itself The Sanctuary For Independent Media on July 14, 2020 with Shawn Young, a lead organizer with All Of Us Community Action Group, who discusses why police reform is not enough and the need for everyone to keep engaged in their community with Michele Maserjian, Hudson Mohawk Radio Network, to wit:
HOST: Today, my guest is Shawn Young, a community activist with All of Us, and welcome, Shawn.
SHAWN: Oh, welcome, thanks for having me.
HOST: And can you tell me what is All of Us?
SHAWN: Okay, so All Of Us community action group grassroots organization – we are based in Schenectady, New York – we are influential across the Capital region – we have folks up in Saratoga, Albany, Troy, Schenectady, Clifton Park as well – We are out here fighting for racial justice in our community in all the ways that shows up – police brutality, healthcare, etc, education – so we are here for the fight and particularly in this moment – we’re facing largely police brutality in our community …
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We are out here fighting for racial justice in our community in all the ways that shows up?
Fighting for “racial justice” for whom, exactly?
For Eric Hawkins, perhaps, the Black police chief of the violent Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York under Democrat Kathy Sheehan, herself a kneeler to BLACK LIVES MATTER?
Or racial justice for Alice Green, a Black woman who is executive director for the Center for Law and Justice and who has earned several degrees from SUNY Albany which include a bachelor’s in African-American studies, a master’s degrees in education, social welfare and criminal justice, and a doctorate in criminal justice?
Or how racial justice for the Hon. Dr. Dorcey Applyrs, a very accomplished young Black woman who moved to Albany in 2003 to pursue graduate-level education and since has earned a master’s degree and doctorate in public health from the University at Albany School of Public Health and serves as Clinical Associate Professor in the Health Policy, Management, and Behavior Department and is a member of the Dean’s Advisory Council and Community Advisory Council and also serves as the Subject Matter Expert for the School’s Center for Public Health Continuing Education?
Is Shawn fighting for racial justice for her, one must wonder?
Or how about Congressman Antonio Delgado, the Black man who represents Albany in the U.S. Congress who attended Notre Dame-Bishop Gibbons High School and played for the school’s basketball team and then enrolled at Colgate University and played for the Colgate Raiders men’s basketball team alongside future Golden State Warriors player Adonal Foyle and after Delgado graduated from Colgate in 1999, he earned a Rhodes Scholarship to study at The Queen’s College, Oxford, from which he received a Master of Arts degree in 2001, and in 2005, Delgado graduated from Harvard Law School?
Is Shawn going to get him some racial justice?
And how so?
By burning down civilization and looting the property of others?
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Paul Plante says:
So, by way of review in here with respect to this one-sided conversation with this BLACK LIVES MATTER bull**** being jammed down our throats here in America, as we hear over and over about “systemic racism,” a bull**** term invented by the BLACK POWER MOVEMENT to justify the use of violence against people with white skin who they consider their enemies, being biased against people with white skin as they are, let’s first go back to a POLITIFACT article entitled “Is Black Lives Matter a Marxist movement?” by Tom Kertscher on July 21, 2020, where we had as follows, to wit:
Included on its list of beliefs is one that has drawn criticism as being consistent with Marxism:
“We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.”
A spokesperson for Black Lives Matter; Kailee Scales, managing director at Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation; and the three co-founders did not reply to our requests for information.
end quotes
Now, why does anyone think that is, that Kailee Scales, managing director at Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation; and the three co-founders did not reply to POLITIFACTS’ requests for information?
And the answer quite simply is that lack of a response by BLACK LIVES MATTER to POLITIFACT is because they are indoctrinated with Marxist dogma, and thus they lack critical thinking skills, and lacking critical thinking skills because of being “trained Marxists,” with the emphasis on the word “trained,” they cannot rationally explain themselves beyond spouting ignorant Marxist dogma.
And that reality about being indoctrinated on dogma takes us back beyond the statement of mayor Kathy of Albany in the Times Union story “As statues tumble, relatives of Gen. Philip Schuyler ask for pause” by Brendan J. Lyons on July 5, 2020 where she was quoted as saying “(T)o me, stating that Black Lives Matter is something that we have to say out loud because of our history,” where we will never know exactly what history she is talking about, because she hasn’t a clue herself, to an article in the Daily Mail six (6) years ago on 20 August 2014 where we were informed that shortly after taking office in February 2009, Eric Himpton Holder, Jr, a Democrat Black man who was Democrat Hussein Obama’s top law enforcement officer, called the United States ‘a nation of cowards’ when it comes to talking about race, in a Black History Month speech, where only Black people were in attendance.
Now, think about that statement in the light of this thread alone, where the top law enforcement officer under Hussein Obama, a Black man, was calling a nation of some 328 million people, or 250,264,000 white people, a “NATION OF COWARDS,” that in a forum where white people were not allowed and thus, did not have a voice in the conversation, which would seem to indicate the real coward was Eric Himpton Holder, Jr., himself.
According to the news media, in a segregated town hall meeting Himpton Holder, Jr. held in Ferguson, Missouri that was closed so no “white” viewpoints could be expressed, Himpton Holder, Jr. said to the segregated audience present that “(W)e need concrete action to change things in this country,” and “(S)o this interaction must occur,” and “‘(T)his dialogue is important,” and “(B)ut it can’t simply be that we have a conversation that begins based on what happens on August 9, and ends sometime in December, and nothing happens.”
Except there was no “conversation” then, and there hasn’t been one since, precisely because the Himpton Holder and BLACK LIVES MATTER crowd cannot hold a rational conversation on the subject, having nothing but the same old racially-motivated garbage to spew, over and over again, which gets quite tedious and irksome, and that in turn takes us to a podcast by something calling itself The Sanctuary For Independent Media on July 14, 2020 with Shawn Young, a lead organizer with All Of Us Community Action Group, who discusses why police reform is not enough and the need for everyone to keep engaged in their community with Michele Maserjian, Hudson Mohawk Radio Network, to wit:
HOST: Today, my guest is Shawn Young, a community activist with All of Us, and welcome, Shawn.
SHAWN: Oh, welcome, thanks for having me.
HOST: And can you tell me what is All of Us?
SHAWN: Okay, so All Of Us community action group grassroots organization – we are based in Schenectady, New York – we are influential across the Capital region – we have folks up in Saratoga, Albany, Troy, Schenectady, Clifton Park as well – We are out here fighting for racial justice in our community in all the ways that shows up – police brutality, healthcare, etc, education – so we are here for the fight and particularly in this moment – we’re facing largely police brutality in our community …
end quotes
We are out here fighting for racial justice in our community in all the ways that shows up?
Fighting for “racial justice” for whom, exactly?
For Eric Hawkins, perhaps, the Black police chief of the violent Democrat-controlled sanctuary city of Albany, New York under Democrat Kathy Sheehan, herself a kneeler to BLACK LIVES MATTER?
Or racial justice for Alice Green, a Black woman who is executive director for the Center for Law and Justice and who has earned several degrees from SUNY Albany which include a bachelor’s in African-American studies, a master’s degrees in education, social welfare and criminal justice, and a doctorate in criminal justice?
Or how racial justice for the Hon. Dr. Dorcey Applyrs, a very accomplished young Black woman who moved to Albany in 2003 to pursue graduate-level education and since has earned a master’s degree and doctorate in public health from the University at Albany School of Public Health and serves as Clinical Associate Professor in the Health Policy, Management, and Behavior Department and is a member of the Dean’s Advisory Council and Community Advisory Council and also serves as the Subject Matter Expert for the School’s Center for Public Health Continuing Education?
Is Shawn fighting for racial justice for her, one must wonder?
Or how about Congressman Antonio Delgado, the Black man who represents Albany in the U.S. Congress who attended Notre Dame-Bishop Gibbons High School and played for the school’s basketball team and then enrolled at Colgate University and played for the Colgate Raiders men’s basketball team alongside future Golden State Warriors player Adonal Foyle and after Delgado graduated from Colgate in 1999, he earned a Rhodes Scholarship to study at The Queen’s College, Oxford, from which he received a Master of Arts degree in 2001, and in 2005, Delgado graduated from Harvard Law School?
Is Shawn going to get him some racial justice?
And how so?
By burning down civilization and looting the property of others?
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 30, 2020 at 10:35 pm
Paul Plante says:
And going back to the statement of Shawn Young of All Of Us community action group grassroots organization in a 14 July 2020 podcast that “We are out here fighting for racial justice in our community in all the ways that shows up,” this being the same Shawn Young quoted in an Albany, New York Times Union story on 6 Nov. 2020 as saying “(T)he entire way the city (Albany, New York) approaches policing has to be changed; it’s about transformation, it’s about tearing down what we have now and building something better,” and my question, “fighting for racial justice for whom, exactly,” that all takes us back to June 28, 2020, and an Albany, New York Times Union story entitled “Bumpy’s employees walk out amid protest against alleged racist operator – Hundreds rally against ice cream shop owner’s alleged racist text messages” by Cayla Harris, where we get a good glimpse into what tearing down what we have now and building something better looks like in real life, to wit:
SCHENECTADY – More than 200 people gathered on Sunday outside Bumpy’s Polar Freeze, a popular ice cream parlor, to rally against store owner David Elmendorf, who allegedly sent text messages using racial slurs and saying he doesn’t hire black people.
The demonstration was peaceful and passionate, with protesters blocking part of State Street in front of the restaurant for more than two hours.
end quotes
Blocking streets, of course, is a form of violence against those who use those streets, given the streets are “public ways,” defined as any passageway as an alley, road, highway, boulevard, turnpike or part thereof open as of right to the public and designed for travel by vehicle, on foot, but since these protestors are fighting for “racial justice,” they have some kind of apparent God-given right to inflict violence on others by denying them access to the public ways.
So much for the concept of “justice for all” in the United States of America.
Getting back to that story of the fight for racial justice being waged on the streets of America by this All of Us group, we have more as follows:
The protest culminated in the shop shutting down for the evening around 6:15 p.m. – three hours earlier than usual – and three employees walking out, saying they’d quit.
“We set this up today … to eradicate white supremacy in our home.”
“There’s no space for it here,” said organizer Mikayla Foster, 21, who was born and raised in Schenectady.
“It looks a lot of different ways.”
“I think people get it confused, that the only thing we’re fighting against is police brutality, but that’s not the case.”
“We’re fighting against every system that is set to discredit us, disenfranchise us, dismantle us as a people.”
end quotes
And there we have it, people, what the fight for racial justice is all about – it’s a fight against every system put in place in America to dismantle the Black folks as a people, where the word “dismantle” means “take a machine or structure to pieces,” with such synonyms as destroy, strip, deprive, disassemble, break up, take-down, tear down, pull down, knock down, undo and dismount.
Getting back to the story now that we are much more clear as to what this fight is really all about, we have:
Foster, who works with the community organizing group All of Us, led the crowd for much of the protest, kicking off the event by directing a group of roughly 75 people who had shown up at 4 p.m. from a side road to the sidewalks in front of Bumpy’s and much of State Street, blocking traffic.
end quotes
Ah, yes, now that we know what the fight is about, there we have who is doing the fighting, and it is this same All of Us crowd that Shawn Young is a member of, which takes us back to the story for more, as follows:
Within an hour, more than 200 people had arrived with signs ranging from “Shut racists down” to “Be kind.”
They chanted and danced together in front of the shop.
“We are active and ready to move forward against oppression, against black and brown people dying, against white supremacy – the same white supremacy you see at Bumpy’s over here today,” Foster said at the start of the protest.
end quotes
White supremacy at an ice cream stand?
HUH?
What the hell kind of white supremacists in America sell ice cream?
And how on earth is an ice cream stand oppressing Black people and causing black and brown people to die?
And while we wait for answers to those questions which will never come, the story of the fight being waged for racial justice by All Of Us continues as follows:
“They have been operating on systems of racism and oppression for years now.”
end quotes
An ice cream stand is operating on systems of racism and oppression?
That’s ridiculous!
And stupid.
Getting back to it, we have more as follows:
“It’s a damn shame, because they didn’t know that Schenectady came with heat like this.”
“So, today, what the (expletive) we’re going to do is shut it the (expletive) down.”
The group did what was promised – at least for Sunday.
There were at least five employees inside Bumpy’s Sunday afternoon, and by the end of the event, three had walked out.
All were black men.
end quotes
And there is exactly how stupid this whole horse**** show really is, which is why groups like BLACK LIVES MATTER and this offshoot All Of Us are ridiculed and held in contempt, as they ought to be for peddling such stupidity and then asking us to embrace it and buy into it, as if we were all morons and idiots like them – these All of Us idiots were protesting as “racist” an ice cream stand that employed three Black people, and the purpose of their protest was to destroy the owner’s livelihood and deprive him of a means to earn a living, which is what “justice” in the era of BLACK LIVES MATTER looks like in real life if you should have been unfortunate enough to have been born with skin that is not Black, but is the hated white color.
Getting back to that sick story of the “fight for racial justice,” which really is a fight by the Black folks like Shawn Young and Mikayla Foster of the BLACK LIVES MATTER offshoot All Of Us to to discredit, disenfranchise, and dismantle white people as a people, we have:
The protest gradually moved from the street to the lot directly outside the ice cream parlor, as demonstrators held a sit-in in front of the venue for about an hour.
As attendees inched closer to the shop around 5:15 p.m., some protesters started collecting money for the employees, saying they would buy them out of working for the restaurant.
Attendees raised at least $270 for each of the men who left and promised to help them find new jobs.
One of the workers, Shameil McCoy, was wearing a Bumpy’s shirt – and took it off as protesters cheered.
Some demonstrators later jumped on it and threw it in the pool next to the establishment.
end quotes
What is stupid here and weird as all get out is that this All Of Us crowd was raising money to “buy” the freedom of these Black employees of Bumpy’s ice cream parlor as if they were slaves.
Getting back to the weirdness, and the promise of further violence against people with white skin by these “protestors” in this fight of theirs for “racial justice,” we have:
Organizer Khalifa Jackson, 27, of the group BLX, said Sunday’s protest was just the first step in taking down a number of businesses in local communities “that are built on the foundation of white supremacy and are allowed to thrive in these environments.”
“I think we had a really good turnout today,” Jackson said.
“A lot of people are very passionate here, so of course emotions run high.”
“We’re very frustrated, we’re tired at the end of the day – but I feel like we definitely maintained our initial purpose and mission, which was to shed light on what is going on in this establishment and bringing the community together to remind them just how much we’re worth and how much our lives are valued.”
end quotes
And what a load of bull**** that all is, but such is the “fight for racial justice” here in America today where all it now takes to be a racist and white supremacist is to have white skin and sell ice cream.
Welcome to the New World Order in America today being ushered in by BLACK LIVES MATTER and All of Us whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history’s progress.
http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/b ... ent-303945
Paul Plante says:
And going back to the statement of Shawn Young of All Of Us community action group grassroots organization in a 14 July 2020 podcast that “We are out here fighting for racial justice in our community in all the ways that shows up,” this being the same Shawn Young quoted in an Albany, New York Times Union story on 6 Nov. 2020 as saying “(T)he entire way the city (Albany, New York) approaches policing has to be changed; it’s about transformation, it’s about tearing down what we have now and building something better,” and my question, “fighting for racial justice for whom, exactly,” that all takes us back to June 28, 2020, and an Albany, New York Times Union story entitled “Bumpy’s employees walk out amid protest against alleged racist operator – Hundreds rally against ice cream shop owner’s alleged racist text messages” by Cayla Harris, where we get a good glimpse into what tearing down what we have now and building something better looks like in real life, to wit:
SCHENECTADY – More than 200 people gathered on Sunday outside Bumpy’s Polar Freeze, a popular ice cream parlor, to rally against store owner David Elmendorf, who allegedly sent text messages using racial slurs and saying he doesn’t hire black people.
The demonstration was peaceful and passionate, with protesters blocking part of State Street in front of the restaurant for more than two hours.
end quotes
Blocking streets, of course, is a form of violence against those who use those streets, given the streets are “public ways,” defined as any passageway as an alley, road, highway, boulevard, turnpike or part thereof open as of right to the public and designed for travel by vehicle, on foot, but since these protestors are fighting for “racial justice,” they have some kind of apparent God-given right to inflict violence on others by denying them access to the public ways.
So much for the concept of “justice for all” in the United States of America.
Getting back to that story of the fight for racial justice being waged on the streets of America by this All of Us group, we have more as follows:
The protest culminated in the shop shutting down for the evening around 6:15 p.m. – three hours earlier than usual – and three employees walking out, saying they’d quit.
“We set this up today … to eradicate white supremacy in our home.”
“There’s no space for it here,” said organizer Mikayla Foster, 21, who was born and raised in Schenectady.
“It looks a lot of different ways.”
“I think people get it confused, that the only thing we’re fighting against is police brutality, but that’s not the case.”
“We’re fighting against every system that is set to discredit us, disenfranchise us, dismantle us as a people.”
end quotes
And there we have it, people, what the fight for racial justice is all about – it’s a fight against every system put in place in America to dismantle the Black folks as a people, where the word “dismantle” means “take a machine or structure to pieces,” with such synonyms as destroy, strip, deprive, disassemble, break up, take-down, tear down, pull down, knock down, undo and dismount.
Getting back to the story now that we are much more clear as to what this fight is really all about, we have:
Foster, who works with the community organizing group All of Us, led the crowd for much of the protest, kicking off the event by directing a group of roughly 75 people who had shown up at 4 p.m. from a side road to the sidewalks in front of Bumpy’s and much of State Street, blocking traffic.
end quotes
Ah, yes, now that we know what the fight is about, there we have who is doing the fighting, and it is this same All of Us crowd that Shawn Young is a member of, which takes us back to the story for more, as follows:
Within an hour, more than 200 people had arrived with signs ranging from “Shut racists down” to “Be kind.”
They chanted and danced together in front of the shop.
“We are active and ready to move forward against oppression, against black and brown people dying, against white supremacy – the same white supremacy you see at Bumpy’s over here today,” Foster said at the start of the protest.
end quotes
White supremacy at an ice cream stand?
HUH?
What the hell kind of white supremacists in America sell ice cream?
And how on earth is an ice cream stand oppressing Black people and causing black and brown people to die?
And while we wait for answers to those questions which will never come, the story of the fight being waged for racial justice by All Of Us continues as follows:
“They have been operating on systems of racism and oppression for years now.”
end quotes
An ice cream stand is operating on systems of racism and oppression?
That’s ridiculous!
And stupid.
Getting back to it, we have more as follows:
“It’s a damn shame, because they didn’t know that Schenectady came with heat like this.”
“So, today, what the (expletive) we’re going to do is shut it the (expletive) down.”
The group did what was promised – at least for Sunday.
There were at least five employees inside Bumpy’s Sunday afternoon, and by the end of the event, three had walked out.
All were black men.
end quotes
And there is exactly how stupid this whole horse**** show really is, which is why groups like BLACK LIVES MATTER and this offshoot All Of Us are ridiculed and held in contempt, as they ought to be for peddling such stupidity and then asking us to embrace it and buy into it, as if we were all morons and idiots like them – these All of Us idiots were protesting as “racist” an ice cream stand that employed three Black people, and the purpose of their protest was to destroy the owner’s livelihood and deprive him of a means to earn a living, which is what “justice” in the era of BLACK LIVES MATTER looks like in real life if you should have been unfortunate enough to have been born with skin that is not Black, but is the hated white color.
Getting back to that sick story of the “fight for racial justice,” which really is a fight by the Black folks like Shawn Young and Mikayla Foster of the BLACK LIVES MATTER offshoot All Of Us to to discredit, disenfranchise, and dismantle white people as a people, we have:
The protest gradually moved from the street to the lot directly outside the ice cream parlor, as demonstrators held a sit-in in front of the venue for about an hour.
As attendees inched closer to the shop around 5:15 p.m., some protesters started collecting money for the employees, saying they would buy them out of working for the restaurant.
Attendees raised at least $270 for each of the men who left and promised to help them find new jobs.
One of the workers, Shameil McCoy, was wearing a Bumpy’s shirt – and took it off as protesters cheered.
Some demonstrators later jumped on it and threw it in the pool next to the establishment.
end quotes
What is stupid here and weird as all get out is that this All Of Us crowd was raising money to “buy” the freedom of these Black employees of Bumpy’s ice cream parlor as if they were slaves.
Getting back to the weirdness, and the promise of further violence against people with white skin by these “protestors” in this fight of theirs for “racial justice,” we have:
Organizer Khalifa Jackson, 27, of the group BLX, said Sunday’s protest was just the first step in taking down a number of businesses in local communities “that are built on the foundation of white supremacy and are allowed to thrive in these environments.”
“I think we had a really good turnout today,” Jackson said.
“A lot of people are very passionate here, so of course emotions run high.”
“We’re very frustrated, we’re tired at the end of the day – but I feel like we definitely maintained our initial purpose and mission, which was to shed light on what is going on in this establishment and bringing the community together to remind them just how much we’re worth and how much our lives are valued.”
end quotes
And what a load of bull**** that all is, but such is the “fight for racial justice” here in America today where all it now takes to be a racist and white supremacist is to have white skin and sell ice cream.
Welcome to the New World Order in America today being ushered in by BLACK LIVES MATTER and All of Us whose ideology hails the establishment of the New World Order as the culmination of history’s progress.
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR December 1, 2020 at 10:49 pm
Paul Plante says:
So, a question here: how do we know that this All of Us crowd shutting down this ice cream stand for being a bastion of racism and white supremacy are a splinter group of BLACK LIVES MATTER?
To which I respond, if a picture is worth a thousand words, if we go to a Spectrum News story entitled “Community Group Says It Will Be ‘Constant Presence’ Demanding Change” by Jaclyn Cangro on June 18, 2020, we see people at an All of Us rally holding signs that link All Of Us to BLACK LIVES MATTER:
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capit ... tal-region
And if we then go to an Albany, New York Times Union article entitled “Bumpy’s employees walk out amid protest against alleged racist operator – Hundreds rally against ice cream shop owner’s alleged racist text messages” by Cayla Harris on June 28, 2020, we see a picture of the All Of Us mob blocking off the public street in front of the ice cream stand and front and center in that picture, we see the upraised BLACK POWER fist on a sign with BLM written on it:
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610174
If we scroll through those photos, we get an idea of just how ugly an All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER “protest” can really be, where in the name of the fight for “racial justice” and All Of Us fighting against every system that is set to discredit them, disenfranchise them, and dismantle them as a people, they have commandeered not only a city street, but have taken over private property, as well,
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610189
and clearly intend to use violence to make sure that theirs is the only voice being heard:
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610196
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610181
In the meantime, what we fail to find in any of those photos, and what we fail to see is any “police brutality,” and in fact, scan as hard as we might, despite the threat of violence and the fact that the mob was blocking off a major thoroughfare, what we fail to find is any sign whatsoever of the police, period, precisely because they weren’t there to get involved and then find themselves in big trouble deep for failing to be “sensitive” enough to the needs of the mob that were intent on destroying a man’s life and livelihood because they, the howling mob who now rule our streets, believe he is a racist, which is all it takes anymore to get a howling mob sicced on you in America by All Of Us and BLACK LIVES MATTER.
And that brings us then to the question “what does it mean to extort someone,” the answer to which is “to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or unlawful use of authority or power.”
In other words, do exactly as All of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER says to do, and think only as they say is permissible to think, and then you won’t find a howling mob of them on your doorstep, threatening you with violence, which is extortion and what this All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER crowd is doing today is no different than what Democrat terror groups such as the Red Shirts of the Southern United States, white supremacist paramilitary terrorist groups that were active in the late 19th century in the last years of, and after the end of, the Reconstruction era of the United States when politically conservative private terror units adopted red shirts to make themselves more visible and threatening to Southern progressives, both whites and freedmen, were doing in the South after the Civil War,
And that brings us to the question “what is considered coercion,” the answer to which is “the use of intimidation or threats to prevent someone doing something they have a legal right to do,” which is exactly what we are witnessing with regard to these mob scenes outside the ice cream parlor.
And that brings us to the word “brutality” we hear being bandied about almost on a daily basis anymore by these violent BLACK LIVES MATTER protestors.
The word “brutality” means savage physical violence, or the quality of being brutal; cruelty; savagery. a brutal act or practice, or violence or physical force unlawfully exercised toward property and/or persons.
So who is it being brutal here?
Clearly it was not the police, who knew better than to tangle with a BLACK LIVES MATTER howling mob and get themselves in trouble with the “authorities,” as we see in a Daily Gazette article entitled “Bumpy’s owner arrested for allegedly pointing a pellet gun at protesters in Schenectady – The owner’s truck pulled over by police” by Pete DeMola on June 30, 2020, to wit:
City and county sheriff’s deputies were on site Tuesday afternoon to warn the protesters against blocking traffic on State Street, but left by 6:40 p.m..
Afterward, the atmosphere remained tense as the crowd engaged in minor skirmishes with motorists attempting to enter or leave Shirley Lane, which organizers blocked.
end quotes
In America today, if you are Black and are “fighting for racial justice,” then for you, violence is clearly the way to achieve your objectives while the police who are scared of you because you can get them fired run and hide to keep themselves safe.
http://www.capecharlesmirror.com/news/b ... ent-304190
Paul Plante says:
So, a question here: how do we know that this All of Us crowd shutting down this ice cream stand for being a bastion of racism and white supremacy are a splinter group of BLACK LIVES MATTER?
To which I respond, if a picture is worth a thousand words, if we go to a Spectrum News story entitled “Community Group Says It Will Be ‘Constant Presence’ Demanding Change” by Jaclyn Cangro on June 18, 2020, we see people at an All of Us rally holding signs that link All Of Us to BLACK LIVES MATTER:
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/capit ... tal-region
And if we then go to an Albany, New York Times Union article entitled “Bumpy’s employees walk out amid protest against alleged racist operator – Hundreds rally against ice cream shop owner’s alleged racist text messages” by Cayla Harris on June 28, 2020, we see a picture of the All Of Us mob blocking off the public street in front of the ice cream stand and front and center in that picture, we see the upraised BLACK POWER fist on a sign with BLM written on it:
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610174
If we scroll through those photos, we get an idea of just how ugly an All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER “protest” can really be, where in the name of the fight for “racial justice” and All Of Us fighting against every system that is set to discredit them, disenfranchise them, and dismantle them as a people, they have commandeered not only a city street, but have taken over private property, as well,
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610189
and clearly intend to use violence to make sure that theirs is the only voice being heard:
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610196
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... o-19610181
In the meantime, what we fail to find in any of those photos, and what we fail to see is any “police brutality,” and in fact, scan as hard as we might, despite the threat of violence and the fact that the mob was blocking off a major thoroughfare, what we fail to find is any sign whatsoever of the police, period, precisely because they weren’t there to get involved and then find themselves in big trouble deep for failing to be “sensitive” enough to the needs of the mob that were intent on destroying a man’s life and livelihood because they, the howling mob who now rule our streets, believe he is a racist, which is all it takes anymore to get a howling mob sicced on you in America by All Of Us and BLACK LIVES MATTER.
And that brings us then to the question “what does it mean to extort someone,” the answer to which is “to obtain from a person by force, intimidation, or undue or unlawful use of authority or power.”
In other words, do exactly as All of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER says to do, and think only as they say is permissible to think, and then you won’t find a howling mob of them on your doorstep, threatening you with violence, which is extortion and what this All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER crowd is doing today is no different than what Democrat terror groups such as the Red Shirts of the Southern United States, white supremacist paramilitary terrorist groups that were active in the late 19th century in the last years of, and after the end of, the Reconstruction era of the United States when politically conservative private terror units adopted red shirts to make themselves more visible and threatening to Southern progressives, both whites and freedmen, were doing in the South after the Civil War,
And that brings us to the question “what is considered coercion,” the answer to which is “the use of intimidation or threats to prevent someone doing something they have a legal right to do,” which is exactly what we are witnessing with regard to these mob scenes outside the ice cream parlor.
And that brings us to the word “brutality” we hear being bandied about almost on a daily basis anymore by these violent BLACK LIVES MATTER protestors.
The word “brutality” means savage physical violence, or the quality of being brutal; cruelty; savagery. a brutal act or practice, or violence or physical force unlawfully exercised toward property and/or persons.
So who is it being brutal here?
Clearly it was not the police, who knew better than to tangle with a BLACK LIVES MATTER howling mob and get themselves in trouble with the “authorities,” as we see in a Daily Gazette article entitled “Bumpy’s owner arrested for allegedly pointing a pellet gun at protesters in Schenectady – The owner’s truck pulled over by police” by Pete DeMola on June 30, 2020, to wit:
City and county sheriff’s deputies were on site Tuesday afternoon to warn the protesters against blocking traffic on State Street, but left by 6:40 p.m..
Afterward, the atmosphere remained tense as the crowd engaged in minor skirmishes with motorists attempting to enter or leave Shirley Lane, which organizers blocked.
end quotes
In America today, if you are Black and are “fighting for racial justice,” then for you, violence is clearly the way to achieve your objectives while the police who are scared of you because you can get them fired run and hide to keep themselves safe.
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR November 16, 2020 at 9:41 pm
Paul Plante says:
As to the election of the president, this farcical system we have in place today is far removed from what Alexander Hamilton told us we would have in FEDERALIST No. 68, The Mode of Electing the President, from the New York Packet to the People of the State of New York on Friday, March 14, 1788, where Hamilton started out the essay as follows:
THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents.
The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.
I venture somewhat further, and hesitate not to affirm, that if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent.
It unites in an eminent degree all the advantages, the union of which was to be wished for.
It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided.
This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.
end quotes
Now, there is an important statement by Hamilton – that those electors were to be chosen by the people, which is no longer the case today where the choosing each State’s electors is now a two-part process, and where first, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election, and second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State’s electors by casting their ballots.
Except we are choosing who the political parties have given us to choose, which is not really a choice at all, which defeats the purpose of the electoral college as envisioned by Hamilton, to wit:
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
end quotes
And that is gone right out the window now, especially today where the electors have to take an oath to stay true to that party’s choice, so that the immediate election is no longer made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
Their choice is governed by the political parties, not the people, which is why we now have been dished up an apparently senile geriatric specimen who raves like a maniac and who mid-sentence forgets what it was he was saying in the first half of the sentence.
Getting back to Hamilton, he goes on as follows:
A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder.
This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States.
But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.
end quotes
Except under this party system we are stuck with now, largely out of ignorance by the American people who are merely sheep to be sheared anymore, they don’t, which takes us back to Hamilton as follows:
The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes.
And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption.
end quotes
Yeah, right, Al!
In the original scheme of things, it might have been that nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption, but that has gone out the window, as well, so that cabal, intrigue and corruption in the selection of the president is now the order of the day.
Getting back to Hamilton:
These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.
How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?
end quotes
And here I have to laugh out loud reading that as I think of the Chinese and Iranians and maybe the Russians and Ukrainians all patting themselves on the back for raising their creature “Corn Pop” Biden to the chief magistracy of OUR Union, which again takes us back to Hamilton, to wit:
But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention.
They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment.
And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office.
end quotes
And more laughing out loud at that because the appointment of the President today depends on a preexisting body of men and women who have been tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes, or they wouldn’t be picked as party electors in the first place.
Hamilton continues from there as follows:
No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors.
Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias.
end quotes
HA HA HA HA HA HAH!
If they are free from bias, they won’t be picked as electors, plain and simple.
Back to Hamilton:
Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it.
The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means.
Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.
Another and no less important desideratum was, that the Executive should be independent for his continuance in office on all but the people themselves.
He might otherwise be tempted to sacrifice his duty to his complaisance for those whose favor was necessary to the duration of his official consequence.
This advantage will also be secured, by making his re-election to depend on a special body of representatives, deputed by the society for the single purpose of making the important choice.
All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President.
Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President.
But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.
The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.
It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue.
And this will be thought no inconsiderable recommendation of the Constitution, by those who are able to estimate the share which the executive in every government must necessarily have in its good or ill administration.
Though we cannot acquiesce in the political heresy of the poet who says: “For forms of government let fools contest That which is best administered is best,” yet we may safely pronounce, that the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.
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Paul Plante says:
As to the election of the president, this farcical system we have in place today is far removed from what Alexander Hamilton told us we would have in FEDERALIST No. 68, The Mode of Electing the President, from the New York Packet to the People of the State of New York on Friday, March 14, 1788, where Hamilton started out the essay as follows:
THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents.
The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.
I venture somewhat further, and hesitate not to affirm, that if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent.
It unites in an eminent degree all the advantages, the union of which was to be wished for.
It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided.
This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.
end quotes
Now, there is an important statement by Hamilton – that those electors were to be chosen by the people, which is no longer the case today where the choosing each State’s electors is now a two-part process, and where first, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election, and second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State’s electors by casting their ballots.
Except we are choosing who the political parties have given us to choose, which is not really a choice at all, which defeats the purpose of the electoral college as envisioned by Hamilton, to wit:
It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
end quotes
And that is gone right out the window now, especially today where the electors have to take an oath to stay true to that party’s choice, so that the immediate election is no longer made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice.
Their choice is governed by the political parties, not the people, which is why we now have been dished up an apparently senile geriatric specimen who raves like a maniac and who mid-sentence forgets what it was he was saying in the first half of the sentence.
Getting back to Hamilton, he goes on as follows:
A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.
It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder.
This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States.
But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief.
end quotes
Except under this party system we are stuck with now, largely out of ignorance by the American people who are merely sheep to be sheared anymore, they don’t, which takes us back to Hamilton as follows:
The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes.
And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption.
end quotes
Yeah, right, Al!
In the original scheme of things, it might have been that nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption, but that has gone out the window, as well, so that cabal, intrigue and corruption in the selection of the president is now the order of the day.
Getting back to Hamilton:
These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one quarter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.
How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?
end quotes
And here I have to laugh out loud reading that as I think of the Chinese and Iranians and maybe the Russians and Ukrainians all patting themselves on the back for raising their creature “Corn Pop” Biden to the chief magistracy of OUR Union, which again takes us back to Hamilton, to wit:
But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention.
They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment.
And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office.
end quotes
And more laughing out loud at that because the appointment of the President today depends on a preexisting body of men and women who have been tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes, or they wouldn’t be picked as party electors in the first place.
Hamilton continues from there as follows:
No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors.
Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias.
end quotes
HA HA HA HA HA HAH!
If they are free from bias, they won’t be picked as electors, plain and simple.
Back to Hamilton:
Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it.
The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means.
Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.
Another and no less important desideratum was, that the Executive should be independent for his continuance in office on all but the people themselves.
He might otherwise be tempted to sacrifice his duty to his complaisance for those whose favor was necessary to the duration of his official consequence.
This advantage will also be secured, by making his re-election to depend on a special body of representatives, deputed by the society for the single purpose of making the important choice.
All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President.
Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President.
But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.
The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.
Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.
It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue.
And this will be thought no inconsiderable recommendation of the Constitution, by those who are able to estimate the share which the executive in every government must necessarily have in its good or ill administration.
Though we cannot acquiesce in the political heresy of the poet who says: “For forms of government let fools contest That which is best administered is best,” yet we may safely pronounce, that the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.
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Re: Just musings, is all
THE CAPE CHARLES MIRROR December 2, 2020 at 10:18 pm
Paul Plante says:
So, as we all have a really good look here courtesy of the Cape Charles Mirror at what is called “community organizing” is all about in this Age of BLACK LIVES MATTER, which so-called “community organizing” is nothing more than being able to raise a howling mob at your command and then wield that mob as a political weapon as Shawn Young and Mikayla Foster of the BLACK LIVES MATTER offshoot All Of Us are clearly able to do, let us for a moment go back in time to the last century BC, long regarded by some historians as one of the most pivotal times in the history of the world, just as are these times we are now in today in this country pivotal times in our history, to another time in history when the use of mobs as political weapons in Rome was rampant, to get an idea of what our own future might look like if Shawn Young of the BLACK LIVES MATTER offshoot All Of Us is able to make his wish come true by having Democrat Kathy Sheehan, the mayor of the violent sanctuary city of Albany, New York and her city council cut off all funding for the Albany, New York Police Department, which goal was clearly expressed in the Albany, New York Times Union story entitled “Activists urge city to take stronger stance on police reform” by Steve Hughes on Nov. 6, 2020, as follows:
ALBANY — Dozens of residents and activists spoke out about their concerns with the city’s police reform process Friday night.
Standing on the sidewalk on Second Street outside of VanRennselaer Park in Arbor Hill, they said the city’s plan moved too slowly and that they did not believe it would bring about meaningful change in how the police department and community members viewed each other.
The entire way the city approaches policing has to be changed, said organizer Shawn Young, co-founder of All of Us.
“It’s about transformation, it’s about tearing down what we have now and building something better,” he said.
end quotes
It’s about transformation, alright.
It’s about tearing down what we have now, which to the Marxists is the hated symbol of the “state” they want to tear down to take us back to the communism which existed prior to the rise of the “state,” that being the police, and replacing them with rule by mob, or ochlocracy as the ancient Greeks, who knew it well called it, which is the rule of government by a mob or mass of people and the intimidation of legitimate authorities.
Going back in time, it was during that time in Roman history, this just before their civil war, that the greatest of Romans vied for the fate of the Republic – Pompey and Caesar, Cicero and Crassus, names that became legends, along with Publius Claudius Pulcher who is remembered to this day for his control over the mob in Rome, where he was known as the King of the Street.
What Clodius was seeking, and what he got, was the post of “Tribune of the Plebs”.
A Tribune was a Plebian elected by Plebians.
They had several unrivalled powers, most of which stemmed from one simple fact – it was an automatic death sentence to harm a Tribune.
He won the eternal loyalty of the Plebs by instituting an official Dole of free grain to the poor, something that would become a key part of Roman life in the centuries to come.
He also legalised associations “of a semi-political nature” – in other words, lower-class political pressure groups that could organise mob violence to order.
Ah, yes, the ability to organize mob violence to order – there is where the political power of Shawn Young of All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER stems from today, which makes him a modern-day Clodius Pulcher, who himself led several such groups, and soon became the “king of the streets” of Rome.
His power started to wane when his relations with the Triumvirate began to fray.
Clodius’ power went to his head, and rumours that Pompey planned to allow Cicero to return from from exile drove him to begin harassing him, reportedly even trying an assassination attempt.
This made the Triumvirate realise they had created a monster.
An attempt was made to recall Cicero from exile at the beginning of 57 BC, when Clodius’ term of office ended, but Clodius used his gangs to break up the meetings.
Pompey was forced to allow the new tribunes, including a firebrand named Milo, to raise their own gangs in opposition to Clodius.
Mobs in opposition to other mobs!
Think about it, people!
There is where people like this Shawn Young of All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER are taking us as they try to jam their dogma and ideology down our throats with a two by four with their mobs.
Getting back to what came before in Rome, Milo and Clodius soon became bitter rivals, as they each fought for control of the Plebians.
Clodius had himself elected to a minor public office in 57 BC, for example, to avoid being prosecuted by Milo.
He then himself had Milo prosecuted for public violence.
The violence in question consisted of fighting off the mobs Clodius had sent to smash his house up.
The two men continued their private war for several years, until it reached its climax in 52 BC.
The two men were travelling outside of the city, and their parties met “by chance”, and a scuffle broke out that escalated into a full blown battle.
Later accounts would have it that one or the other was laying in ambush, of course.
As a result of the fight Clodius was wounded, and he fled to a nearby inn.
Milo won the battle, and he and his men then found the injured Clodius.
Milo decided this was too good an opportunity to pass up, and had his men murder the defenceless man and abandon his body by the side of the road.
Of course, things didn’t end there.
A traveller found and recognised Clodius’ body, and had it sent back to Rome.
There his wife Fulvia organised his followers to take it and march on the senate’s meeting house, the Curia.
There they drove the senators out before setting the building alight as a funeral pyre for their fallen leader.
In response to this the Senate appointed Pompey to take on command of the city to restore order, an action which would lead inevitably to the Roman civil war that saw Caesar come to power.
Milo was tried for the murder of Crassus, and Cicero (of course) spoke in his defence.
The great orator was intimidated by the mob in the audience, and his delivery was unusually poor.
Milo was convicted and exiled, a verdict which Pompey allegedly forced the jury to pass in order to quiet the streets.
He, like many others, would perish in the decade of civil war that was to come.
Fulvia married Mark Anthony, one of Caesar’s protegé, and brought Clodius’ gangs to his side.
She may have prompted his enmity against Cicero, who he had executed in 43 BC.
One story recounts that when the great orator’s head was put on display, she pulled out his tongue and jabbed it with a hairpin in revenge for the words it had spoken.
In many ways the story of Clodius parallels that of the end of the Republic.
He began as a typical Patrician youth, in military service, before falling into the decadence that marked the disintegration of the traditional social order.
As the old politics were superseded by outright violence (something which had begun much earlier) he gradually became less a politician, and more a gang lord.
And in the end, like so many, he was consumed by the violence he created, relegated to a footnote in the tales of better men.
In our times today, is that really a road we want to go down?
Or be taken down?
Something to think about, anyway.
Because once started, civil wars are hard to stop.
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Paul Plante says:
So, as we all have a really good look here courtesy of the Cape Charles Mirror at what is called “community organizing” is all about in this Age of BLACK LIVES MATTER, which so-called “community organizing” is nothing more than being able to raise a howling mob at your command and then wield that mob as a political weapon as Shawn Young and Mikayla Foster of the BLACK LIVES MATTER offshoot All Of Us are clearly able to do, let us for a moment go back in time to the last century BC, long regarded by some historians as one of the most pivotal times in the history of the world, just as are these times we are now in today in this country pivotal times in our history, to another time in history when the use of mobs as political weapons in Rome was rampant, to get an idea of what our own future might look like if Shawn Young of the BLACK LIVES MATTER offshoot All Of Us is able to make his wish come true by having Democrat Kathy Sheehan, the mayor of the violent sanctuary city of Albany, New York and her city council cut off all funding for the Albany, New York Police Department, which goal was clearly expressed in the Albany, New York Times Union story entitled “Activists urge city to take stronger stance on police reform” by Steve Hughes on Nov. 6, 2020, as follows:
ALBANY — Dozens of residents and activists spoke out about their concerns with the city’s police reform process Friday night.
Standing on the sidewalk on Second Street outside of VanRennselaer Park in Arbor Hill, they said the city’s plan moved too slowly and that they did not believe it would bring about meaningful change in how the police department and community members viewed each other.
The entire way the city approaches policing has to be changed, said organizer Shawn Young, co-founder of All of Us.
“It’s about transformation, it’s about tearing down what we have now and building something better,” he said.
end quotes
It’s about transformation, alright.
It’s about tearing down what we have now, which to the Marxists is the hated symbol of the “state” they want to tear down to take us back to the communism which existed prior to the rise of the “state,” that being the police, and replacing them with rule by mob, or ochlocracy as the ancient Greeks, who knew it well called it, which is the rule of government by a mob or mass of people and the intimidation of legitimate authorities.
Going back in time, it was during that time in Roman history, this just before their civil war, that the greatest of Romans vied for the fate of the Republic – Pompey and Caesar, Cicero and Crassus, names that became legends, along with Publius Claudius Pulcher who is remembered to this day for his control over the mob in Rome, where he was known as the King of the Street.
What Clodius was seeking, and what he got, was the post of “Tribune of the Plebs”.
A Tribune was a Plebian elected by Plebians.
They had several unrivalled powers, most of which stemmed from one simple fact – it was an automatic death sentence to harm a Tribune.
He won the eternal loyalty of the Plebs by instituting an official Dole of free grain to the poor, something that would become a key part of Roman life in the centuries to come.
He also legalised associations “of a semi-political nature” – in other words, lower-class political pressure groups that could organise mob violence to order.
Ah, yes, the ability to organize mob violence to order – there is where the political power of Shawn Young of All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER stems from today, which makes him a modern-day Clodius Pulcher, who himself led several such groups, and soon became the “king of the streets” of Rome.
His power started to wane when his relations with the Triumvirate began to fray.
Clodius’ power went to his head, and rumours that Pompey planned to allow Cicero to return from from exile drove him to begin harassing him, reportedly even trying an assassination attempt.
This made the Triumvirate realise they had created a monster.
An attempt was made to recall Cicero from exile at the beginning of 57 BC, when Clodius’ term of office ended, but Clodius used his gangs to break up the meetings.
Pompey was forced to allow the new tribunes, including a firebrand named Milo, to raise their own gangs in opposition to Clodius.
Mobs in opposition to other mobs!
Think about it, people!
There is where people like this Shawn Young of All Of Us/BLACK LIVES MATTER are taking us as they try to jam their dogma and ideology down our throats with a two by four with their mobs.
Getting back to what came before in Rome, Milo and Clodius soon became bitter rivals, as they each fought for control of the Plebians.
Clodius had himself elected to a minor public office in 57 BC, for example, to avoid being prosecuted by Milo.
He then himself had Milo prosecuted for public violence.
The violence in question consisted of fighting off the mobs Clodius had sent to smash his house up.
The two men continued their private war for several years, until it reached its climax in 52 BC.
The two men were travelling outside of the city, and their parties met “by chance”, and a scuffle broke out that escalated into a full blown battle.
Later accounts would have it that one or the other was laying in ambush, of course.
As a result of the fight Clodius was wounded, and he fled to a nearby inn.
Milo won the battle, and he and his men then found the injured Clodius.
Milo decided this was too good an opportunity to pass up, and had his men murder the defenceless man and abandon his body by the side of the road.
Of course, things didn’t end there.
A traveller found and recognised Clodius’ body, and had it sent back to Rome.
There his wife Fulvia organised his followers to take it and march on the senate’s meeting house, the Curia.
There they drove the senators out before setting the building alight as a funeral pyre for their fallen leader.
In response to this the Senate appointed Pompey to take on command of the city to restore order, an action which would lead inevitably to the Roman civil war that saw Caesar come to power.
Milo was tried for the murder of Crassus, and Cicero (of course) spoke in his defence.
The great orator was intimidated by the mob in the audience, and his delivery was unusually poor.
Milo was convicted and exiled, a verdict which Pompey allegedly forced the jury to pass in order to quiet the streets.
He, like many others, would perish in the decade of civil war that was to come.
Fulvia married Mark Anthony, one of Caesar’s protegé, and brought Clodius’ gangs to his side.
She may have prompted his enmity against Cicero, who he had executed in 43 BC.
One story recounts that when the great orator’s head was put on display, she pulled out his tongue and jabbed it with a hairpin in revenge for the words it had spoken.
In many ways the story of Clodius parallels that of the end of the Republic.
He began as a typical Patrician youth, in military service, before falling into the decadence that marked the disintegration of the traditional social order.
As the old politics were superseded by outright violence (something which had begun much earlier) he gradually became less a politician, and more a gang lord.
And in the end, like so many, he was consumed by the violence he created, relegated to a footnote in the tales of better men.
In our times today, is that really a road we want to go down?
Or be taken down?
Something to think about, anyway.
Because once started, civil wars are hard to stop.
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